<I have worked a lifetime in the field of psychiatry and the truth is that psychiatric diagnoses of this kind are a kind of circular argument.>
Are you a psychiatrist? What kind of work do you do in the field?
I don’t think the diagnosis is circular and doubt that people get diagnosed as "psychopaths" because they did something bad. While there’s a higher rate of diagnosed "psycho or sociopaths" in prison, the percent is less than half. I’ve seen a few statistics today, all less than 50%, some way less. In contrast, the estimate for "psychopaths’ among the general population is about 1%. (I’m not going to find all the numbers that I came across earlier.)
<A person does something that someone else thinks is bad, so he must have a mental disorder.>
I don’t think anyone is putting forth "doing something bad" as criteria for a mental disorder.
<Either way, it is still a circular argument. Someone does something bad, therefore they must be a psychopath. If a man gets a woman pregnant and then abandons her and a child, he must be a psychopath if he doesn’t accept responsibility for his own children.>
I doubt many people would seriously make that argument.
<Nearly everybody would be a psychopath except that there are laws to keep people straight, and most people are sufficiently scared of being caught that they are scared straight.>
Sounds like you’re saying fear of being caught is the biggest barrier to being a psychopath (if there is a such thing), but rather we are all just psychopaths but too afraid of getting caught to act like ones?
September 12th, 2011 at 1:36 am
Jmm, guess we’re not in agreement on this topic…
<I have worked a lifetime in the field of psychiatry and the truth is that psychiatric diagnoses of this kind are a kind of circular argument.>
Are you a psychiatrist? What kind of work do you do in the field?
I don’t think the diagnosis is circular and doubt that people get diagnosed as "psychopaths" because they did something bad. While there’s a higher rate of diagnosed "psycho or sociopaths" in prison, the percent is less than half. I’ve seen a few statistics today, all less than 50%, some way less. In contrast, the estimate for "psychopaths’ among the general population is about 1%. (I’m not going to find all the numbers that I came across earlier.)
<A person does something that someone else thinks is bad, so he must have a mental disorder.>
I don’t think anyone is putting forth "doing something bad" as criteria for a mental disorder.
<Either way, it is still a circular argument. Someone does something bad, therefore they must be a psychopath. If a man gets a woman pregnant and then abandons her and a child, he must be a psychopath if he doesn’t accept responsibility for his own children.>
I doubt many people would seriously make that argument.
<Nearly everybody would be a psychopath except that there are laws to keep people straight, and most people are sufficiently scared of being caught that they are scared straight.>
Sounds like you’re saying fear of being caught is the biggest barrier to being a psychopath (if there is a such thing), but rather we are all just psychopaths but too afraid of getting caught to act like ones?