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Wild Weekly Wrap-Up

I said in the morning that “markets will react (or overreact) to whatever jobs number we get” and they certainly did both!

The Dow flew up to 12,300 in the first 15 minutes, dove to 12,250 in the next, flew all the way up to 12,331 just an hour later and finished fairly well at 12,307 but they got me today with that early move!

It took a while for the market to come around to my Goldilocks view of the jobs report but the other indices all made similar moves eventually except the SOX and the Transports, who missed our marks.  This does leave me neutral towards the markets going into Monday.

Oil fell again and we had a great time with puts for the third day in a row, our Valero Group mainly gave us a nice spike at the open and drifted down all day, despite a desperate and very fake pump job on oil earlier in the day.  At one point oil was up over $1 and we took that time to grab more puts!

The stake in the heart for oil came as the dollar bounced off our 82.50 targetand was propelled 1% higher by comments made by Hank Paulson on CNBC at mid-day.  After that, the drop was just a matter of time!

Crude did hold $62.03, so we are not out of the woods yet but it was another interesting day at the NYMEX as losses mounted across the board.  The February contract (active a week from today) had huge volume but still dropped to $63.09, just $1.06 over the current month contract!  This is not good for traders who are in the red and were hoping to roll into the next month – unless of course there are people who are willing to let them store their oil very cheaply as they pray for a very late (or very, very early) hurricane…

Now the November contracts, at $67.95, have fallen below the October contracts ($68.08) and both are higher than the Decembers, which dropped to $67.73.  The September contracts, at $67.35 are still below the August contract price ($67.39).  Oh the horror!

Since everyone on the planet was short the dollar this week (except us, of course) there could be a bit of a short squeeze next week, depending on how the China trip goes of course.   Gold moved in tandem with the dollar, losing 1% on the day and looking weak, to say the least.

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I stopped out of my DIA $122 puts at .55 (up 57%), DIA $123 puts for $1 (up 67%) and QQQQ $44 puts at .70 (up 133%) on the upturn (as I was enthusiastic) but then, as I was left unprotected, I let myself get shaken out of a some calls on the turn down. 

We finished up the week with a bang and we’ve had a streak of good calls but I don’t delude myself that I am either Lou Gherig or Joe DiMaggio and you never know when your luck will turn so I took a lot off the table into the weekend (and I was very spooked by the mornings whiplash move!):

AXP Jan $60s hit our price and seemed safe on the way up at $1.30.

BAC was a no-trade, opening too high.

BBY Jan $52.50 was very tempting back at $3 today but I wasn’t feeling that adventurous (we just sold them for $4.30 on Tues!).  I regret not rebuying now since I went to one last night (Fri) and it was a zoo!

BSX Jan ’08 $17.50s still aren’t moving (still $2.50) but I’m considering additional positions at this price and selling the Jan $17.50s for .50 as an income producer as 20% a month is a pretty good income!  I should probably just do it with the ones I have but I really think this thing’s going to bounce back at this point – which is what I’m sure the 83,000 January callers are thinking too…

We added the CHK Jan $32.50s for $1.05 (yes calls) as additional cover to protect profits over the weekend on our remaining oil puts.

I shorted more COP out of principal with the Jan $70 puts at $1.85 but a big spike scared me into selling the $70 puts for .65 as a small cover.

DALRQ Jan ’08 $2.50s jumped up a dime to .20 (up 300%) so I took half off the table.  As I said at the beginning, these could end up worthless so effecively the remainder is a free ride with a year to play out. 

EBAY Dec $32.50s were taken off the table at .45 (down 25%) as it looked too weak to keep after the Cramer pump and yesterday’s drop were just not worth holding with expiration looming.  We still have the Jans and a hopeful attitude!

GLW Feb $22.50s came in at .80 but if they can’t break $21 I’m out quick!

I don’t know why GMCR went down all day and I didn’t stick around to find out so I gave up at $52 (up 25%).

It looks like I will get called away by those GOOG $370s I sold for $40 with a just a 21% profit (the other guy has a triple!)  8-(

INTC finally came off the watch list as I said at 10:01 (with the stock at $20.61) “Watch out for INTC – they can save the SOX by themselves with a .25 gain.“  I grabbed the Jan $22.50s for .25 and the stock did go up to $20.85 but pulled back to finish at $20.68.

JOSB served it’s purpose (getting a discount on the Jan $30s) and we took out our July $30 caller for $4.50 (up .10) and sold the stock for $30.50 for a $1.11 total gain so I’m applying the $1 credit (allowing for commissions) to the Jan $30 puts (that were all I ever wanted in the first place) to lower the basis to a very nice $1!

I was thrilled to be able to take out of the July’s after earnings got away from meIt is very important to remember why you took a position (one of the reasons I first started keeping a blog!) as I said on Mondaythe options are outrageous and I refuse to pay for them so I’m going to let someone else buy them for me:  I take the stock for $29.69, sell the ridiculous July $30s for $4.40 and buy the Jan $30s for $1.75.”  Mission Accomplished!

LLY Apr $55s came in at $2, hopefully we didn’t jump the gun on this but they were $2.50 on Tuesday…

Yes, I’m a MOToholic!  I picked up the Jan $22.50s for .40, which they held despite a poor finish.

MSFT took a huge jump at 2:30, I think because there was a court decision cracking down on software fraud that should net them a healthy profit boost right when Vista is coming out.  A huge buy was made at the close for $20.40 so we may need to get on the Mo train on Monday!

I got scared out of NTES Mar $17.50s at $2.15 (up 16%)  on the morning drop. 

We focused on the OIH $145 puts right out of the gate and picked them up on the turn at $1.20, stopped half out quickly at $1.55, reducing the remaining basis to a comfortable .85 and took them off the table at $1.20 ( up 41%).  We went back in about 90 minutes later for $1.20 again (what the heck, it worked once) and I kept half at close to reduce the remaining basis to $1.

OXPS Jan $30s pushed me out in the morning for .90 (down .10) but rebounded very nicely once I was gone!

RIMM bounced back up and triggered the sale of the other half of the Jan $130 puts for $9.80 for a $9 average sale and a $1 spread on the full trade!

SU $80 puts were picked up for $1.40 but I got out even (too many puts for safety), they finished at $1.70 for those who stayed in.

I was stopped out of TM Jan $120s at $2.55 (up 34%).

We decided a double was too much to risk on the VLO $55 puts, exited at .90 (up 100%).

At 9:53 I said If this is the best XOM can do on an .80 rise in crude it may be time to sell those calls already!“  I was rightbut I held on to them for the protetion over the weekend, which allowed me to hold puts through the dips.

I cannot believe I’m saying this (after 2 months of rolling and doubling) but I took the rest of the XOM $75 puts off the table at .65, up 141% (because we applied the profit from the first half to the basis on the remainder)!  Remind me never to do that again – way too stressful…  Interestingly, despite the drop, my protective Apr $80s went up .20 to $2.45, as I said when we bought themI think these will be slow to fall (look how many die hard oil bulls there are).”

So that was a great finish to a pretty good, but choppy week!

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In summary, we closed 30 positions this week (including 12/1 because of the month roll) for an average gain of 70% on a low average hold of 6 days as we’ve taken a lot of day trades in this choppy market.

The only losers were EBAY, LVS and OXPS and none of them hurt too bad and we had 9 doubles out of our 27 winners.

Our open virtual portfolio is in spectacular shape with 51 open positions that are already also up 70% after 17 days(average).  This, of course includes ridiculous gains by DALRQ (400%), MGM (631%) and STN (1,375%) and eliminating those gains brings us down to 40% but then I should eliminate my 3 wipeouts as well which would bring us back to a more realistic 45% but that’s still pretty darn good!

I hope your week went well too!  I have a great new theory on the dollar so make sure you check back over the weekend to see if we can move the markets as much as we did with the week’s articles on mortgage delinquencies hurting the bankers (Tues) and, of course, the overvaluation of Exxon (Mon).

Of course we warned about the death of the dollar here ages ago, that’s where all these good picks came from!  Will we shift gears?  Stay tuned!

Have a great weekend,

- Phil

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Comments


  1. D

    BSX – Phil, what’s your take on the FDA statements concerning the drug coated stints and the impact on share price? It was not a best case scenario, but not as bad as it could have been either.

  2. Prof

    Phil,

    Congratulations on a great week!

    Also, kudos on providing one of the more informative and useful investing blogs on the Web. I am actually planning to start spending MORE time here and less time on the other sites.

    Since I am a “lame duck” at my current job but still showing up at the office, I should have some time the next couple of weeks to follow your genius more closely and perhaps even try out your trading strategy.

    Keep me in the loop with the new site.

    Have a great w/e,
    - Prof

  3. phil

    That is my take, cerainly not worth crashing the stock to $15.

    Heart transplants are risky too, but people get them…

    Now their idiotic purchase of Guidant, that’s worth crashing thier stock to $25! But it’s a long way back to there and I’m very comfortable with the ’08s and it’s almost a no-brainer to take it as an income producer…

    Despite the idiotic acquisition and the collapse of the stent market (people stopped buying them in Q2) the company is still on track to make $600M this year (not counting the $4Bn the expensed on the purchase).

    Since they expensed $4Bn in Q2, they will be running tax free for about 5 years too (there’s always a bright side)!

    The funniest thing is they beat Q2 est by 23% and Q3 by 11% yet estimates have been reduced from .18 to .10 over the past 90 days (perhaps for good reason) with 7 downgrades since June (but only C went to a sell and that was at $20. On 9/22, after they had been recovering to to $16.25 on low volume, MS, PRU and UBS ALL downgraded them (weak guidance) on the same day and plunged the stock to $14.40.

    This is how fundies get you out of shares so they can get in cheap!

    Just two weeks later, volume picked up significantly and the stock has been up on up volume ever since. Institutions have picked 17M shares as of Yahoo’s stale count and insiders have been net purchasers. A director just picked up 45K shares on the open market (his bottom seems to be about $16 although he was buying at $19 in May too!).

    I’m hoping that’s what’s up with SIRI too but there is far less to go on there.

  4. phil

    Thanks Prof – hopefully you will have some time to weigh in on the HB’s, I miss your insight on the market!

  5. Prof

    Phil said:

    “This is how fundies get you out of shares so they can get in cheap!”

    If there is one thing I have learned first-hand (and painfully) in 2006, it’s that Wall St. is definitely not on the up-and-up. When the Big Money starts to drive the stock prices, not reflecting fundamentals, it’s best just to step away.

    e.g. We both thought LVS was already dramatically overpriced around $50 when it had a secondary offering. Now it has run up to almost $100!!! Good thing I covered at $50! Fortunately, I had learned (the hard way) from the GOOG secondary at $295 to take a small loss and get out.

    My Seminar in Investments professor in graduate business school used to say, “experience is everything in the market”, and now I realize exactly what he meant.

    It is my (obviously biased) belief that the extreme HB rally over the past month has been just an orchestrated short squeeze. All this talk of a “housing bottom” is comical to me. Aside from declining interest rates, the fundamental story on HB’s keeps getting worse! Fear and greed will always move markets, and they have definitely put fear into the minds of homebuilder shorts.

    Still, this is the best game going, and if your are good at it, you can make enough money to have time to spend on the more important things in life.

    That is my goal!

    - Prof

  6. duckman

    Phil,

    Amazing trading. I’m learnings quite a bit from you and hope to return the favor in the blog.

    BA – Di you see the action all Friday afternoon. The last 3 1/2 hours it traded in a narrow band of 10c, expect for a couple times when the band spiked to a mind blowing 20c! Now how does a $90 stocks trade in a 10c band for the whole afternoon ? Do you have any notion of what is going on there.

    I have seen pinning action start about now before expiration, but never this extreme – not even on the last day. Plus, there weren’t a lot of options used to do it – so that confounds me even more.

    I’ve seen this in other stocks at other times and I’ve always wondered what’s going on. Any ideas, anyone ?

  7. phil

    Hey Rein – I found an interesting Tech blogger: http://scobleizer.com/

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    BA – probably just option expiration shenanigans – they can keep that up all week (take a look at Oct 10 – 23!).

    As a seller of the Jan $90 call I say ;-)

  8. sakiko

    duckman – talk about frustrating: I was on the wrong side of MA Dec 105 Cs which I got into on Tuesday, but after watching Wednesday hold at 100 almost all day, I decided that there was too much overhang at the 100 strike (the Monday night Cramer pump got slapped down within ten minutes of Tuesday’s open), and that the call sellers had the upper hand. I guess that I should have checked this first. I got out losing a couple of dimes. Better than losing most of it !

    They usually do this pinning crap OE week (only), so I thought that I had my weeks confused !

  9. reinharden

    Robert Scoble was actually the official voice of MSFT in the blogsphere until not very long ago. I think it was June when he left MSFT.

    My favorite theory is that someone accidentally entered $29.40 instead of $29.04. But somehow I suspect that with a 20+ million share order, it’s likely that it was a pre-arranged thing.

    So…who wanted $600 million worth of MSFT?

    It’d be interesting if BRK had set aside its long-standing anti-technology posture.

    Speaking of BRK…haven’t read a lot lately about how stupid Warren Buffett was to short the dollar. Wonder how that’s working out now? In the vicinity of 40% move against the Euro since 2002…6% just since October.

    reinharden

  10. phil

    R you are way too on top of this stuff!

  11. Don

    sakiko…I got boinked on the MA 105′s also…I lost ~50% by not setting a stop…

    I’m reluctant to keep manual stops on Options such as GOOG, OIH, ICE, etc. since they are so volatile…

    For instance, the GOOG Dec C500s started at $1.70, went to $2.70, then down again…granted w/ only a week away it’s a risky play, but you really have to trade hourly to protect your gains…

    Even a few months out, options kill me…I had the GS Jan C210s early on for $5.30….watched them go way out of the money…and finally back in where I sold at $6.70….(of course they went higher….) oh well…

  12. Jamie

    Phil, What do you think of CHTR, twas a mad money fav all the way down?

  13. Don

    misstatement “I’m reluctant to keep manual stops on Options….”

    I meant automatic stops….

    Any ideas boys and girls???

    Also, FCX has a $1.50 dividend for SOR on 12/14…think they’ll just drop the stock price down right after the 14th????

  14. reinharden

    Phil, my version of fundamental analysis was originally predicated upon reading every word published about the company I was tracking. MSFT doesn’t rise to quite that level for me, but I’ve been paying fairly close attention to them since late 2004 in preparation for now. ;-)

    AAPL, on the other hand, I probably have read every article available online. But AAPL has made it worth my while. I was pleased to face *long-term* capital gains on AAPL LEAPs in 2005 and 2006…which should provide a sense of the magnitude of those gains. And my remaining shares of AAPL have a basis near $6.50. So I continue to pay close attention to AAPL and almost always have a short-term options play one way or the other on that company.

    On the other hand, we won’t talk about Calpine. That didn’t work out so well. But I learned a lot about hedge funds and buying bonds and shorting stocks because of that fiasco.

    But for 2008 (and a few 2009) LEAPs, I’ve been picking up BMC, BRCM, C, CMI, GLW, INTC, IWM, KO, MOT, MSFT, QQQQ, SMH, SPY, and WMB as some of my favorites (especially back in July/August). I’m still quite optimistic about AAPL and GOOG and company; however, the premiums are just too high so I’m just holding the stock for that timeframe (although I have some out-of-the-money options into April and July).

    reinharden

    PS: Considering my recent history with XOM and my above mentioned flop with CPN, and just so as to provide some credibility in occasionally getting the energy sector correct, my WMB basis is under $1..I doubled my cash position in that danged company 4 times in 6 days in July, 2002, as it sank from $6 to $0.78 (can you say Enron means that all related companies are going to go bankrupt…at least that’s what the market thought that week). So I do have a little diversification…

    PPS: I have to find things that I’m comfortable holding for months or years at a time because I don’t often have the time or patience to sit watching every tick or work at saving each nickel…so I have to find things poised for big moves.

  15. tom2oc

    Reinharden, thanks. Will be able to a put a name on the post now. Congrats again! I hope you were able to get in the stock before the breakout. When you asked me about it I saw it like a no-brainer trade and still I didn’t act on it. Should have done what Don Worden says: If you can’t get your eyes off a chart, get the hell in and manage the position once in. Kick, kick..

    Phil, congrats for this great week in a tough market. Reading your wrap-up you’re starting to sound like that Tom2oc wacko: “Mission Accomplished”… ..”Jump the gun”… LOL! Just have to use the WS Clown term now and you’re in business!

    By the way, speaking of him, I was not suprized to see you disappointed with that EBAY after being all grateful the night before on that pump. It’s easy to see that WS is out to get him like they got the other past gurus of the past like Pretcher, etc. And they’re making money while doing so at the expense of the small retail guys who follow blindly his advice. The price usually comes back to normal behavior a few days after though. There is nothing that I hate more than reliazing I got in a WS clown pump without knowing it. It screws up the TA because there is a spike in volume and the price goes up so it grabs my attention and then you see it all disappear in the subsequent days. I remember getting long AAPL on a Friday just after lunch a few months ago and then at around 3:30 the stock spiked up on huge volume. I don’t listen to the guy so I didn’t know and I was happy to see the position gaining so much so quickly on real volume so I held on for the weekend. But the Saturday I realized that it was all due to him pumping it on his show, I was really pissed about it because had I known it, no doubt I would have exited the position by EOD with a quick profit and sure enough it all reversed soon after open the Monday morning on WS and MMs doing circles around the clown.

    Got your message on OIH. Thanks. I will do some TA work on it and hopefully I’ll be able to make some cheeseburgers $$ with it. I regularly review all the OIH stocks before trading it and last time I looked most of the charts were bullish. I can’t check the status now because I don’t have access to my charting platform but will check again Monday morning.

    Have a nice w-e!

    PS: Puts on COP. Really?! You must have missed the chart I loaded on it few days ago. But could go both ways… G/L

  16. reinharden

    ORCL – Someone earlier mentioned ORCL. I can’t speak to the next quarter right this second; however, they are seeing fairly good synergies from their various acquisitions and only this year really starting to effectively combine sales from disparate units into the customers of what used to be different units. This should be net positive for at least the next two quarters.

    MSFT may eventually take some marketshare aware with their Microsoft SQL server; however, at the moment it looks more like MSFT and ORCL and IBM are taking the share away from everyone else more so than MSFT is taking share from ORCL.

    Also, ORCL has way more consulting business than MSFT and considering their history with their customers, it’s not likely that they’d quickly lose that business to MSFT. Once someone has worked on your accounting/payroll/human resources/whatever system for a couple of years, you’re unlikely to drop them for another vendor who has to learn/replace the existing system which involves a tremendous learning curve/cost.

    So I suspect ORCL to show continuation from their last quarter into this quarter (and at least one more). But I haven’t done an in depth analysis for how that compares to expectations. I probably won’t until closer to the earnings reports. But considering that ORCL Oct $14′s gave me a convenient double last earnings, I’ll almost certainly look to play again when the time comes.

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    Speaking of which, Monday, December 18, after the market? The *day* after expiration. That’s just annoying. I hate to have to buy contracts a full month out for an earnings play. AAPL and GOOG are so much more fun for earnings…

    But I guess I’ve got to think about this now rather than later…

    Anyhow, ORQAT (the ORCL Jan $19′s) are $0.35/$0.40 Bid/Ask. Pretty cheap if you think the Lehman guy was blowing smoke.

    All things considered, I’ll probably go back in. But it’s in my speculative portfolio, not my investment portfolio.

    I’m thinking that if ORCL gets the same $2 pop they got last time, they’re at $19.80 and I’ve doubled my money. But I’m also thinking that if the market is stable next week to up, ORCL will participate in that and regain some of what they lost on the comments of a single analyst who still has a $20 target on the stock. And if we get the market melt-up, ORCL would be right there as well. Best case, creeps back to pre-comment level next week, $2 pop on earnings announcement, and an additional $1-$2 on market melt-up in the coming month. For which my $0.40/share grosses $4+. Worse case, I crater my $0.40. Reality is likely somewhere in the middle. So, assuming the market doesn’t melt-down next week, I’ll likely play it thusly.

    reinharden

  17. reinharden

    Tom2OC: I got half the C that I wanted. I filled my Jan 08 LEAPs Thursday (laddered from $55 to $65); however, I hadn’t gotten the prices I wanted on the Jan 09 ladder. And as we all know, by Friday morning it was too late.

    Anyhow, I’m still operating under the premise that C’s components are fundamentally worth 25% to 33% more than the stock (of course, some of that requires that C gets fixed!). And since C has essentially be range-bound since 2004, I don’t think they’re going to let this go unaddressed much longer.

    But obviously we all like it when the TA and the FA line up, so thanks for confirming my question. Undoubtedly the BAC rumor probably helped with Friday’s move. Along with the diminished likelihood of a near-term Fed cut. But (fundamentally) I think that that $1 move up still leaves potentially another $15 on the table for the coming year or two.

    Anyway, we’ll see how it all shakes out next year.

    reinharden

  18. Dan Ellis

    Phil:

    KOSP : Why wouldn’t I buy May 80′s for .8 and sell Dec for .3 and repeat in Jan???

    Thanks!

  19. Cap

    Thanks Phil for the OIH homework. Interesting.
    As was your options primer strategy.

  20. phil

    Article on stops for Don: http://seekingalpha.com/article/16511

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    CHTR – yes but now its all the way back up and no profits in sight! Looks very bullish, just not the kind of company I like to invest in. If Cramer’s minions couldn’t push this thing higher when it only trades $20M on an average day, I don’t think I can love it.

    They lost $4Bn in ’04 and $1Bn last year and another $1Bn already this year. They ahve $19Bn in debt and 250M in cash and receivables and another $1.3B in accounts payable (you must have to scream to get an invoice paid by those guys).

    I think they’d be out of money if they hadn’t sold 400,000 subscribers for $1Bn in July.

    Form the 10Q:

    Charter reported negative free cash flow of $234 million for the third quarter of 2006, compared to negative free cash flow of $198 million for the same year-ago quarter. Growth in revenues in excess of operating costs and expenses, and decreased capital expenditures, were offset by increased interest on cash-pay obligations. For the nine months ended September 30, 2006, Charter reported negative free cash flow of $639 million, compared to negative free cash flow of $524 million for the year-ago period. The increase was primarily driven by higher interest on cash-pay obligations, partially offset by revenue growth that exceeded growth in operating costs and expenses by $21 million and a $20 million decrease in capital expenditures.

    As of September 30, 2006, Charter had $18.8 billion in long-term debt and $85 million of cash on hand. Charter’s total potential availability under its credit facilities as of September 30, 2006 was approximately $1.6 billion, although the actual availability at that time was limited to $673 million due to covenant restrictions.

    Nope, not for me!

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    Nice portfolio Rein! It will be time to run through most of those names very soon as we have to get positioned for next year.

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    I thought I came up with jumped the gun on my own (well not on my own, it’s a pretty common expression) but Mission Accomplished is all you (I said “as Tom says” the first few times but it gets tedious).

    You’re right about Cramer though, he has drifted into clownhood to the point where I may have to call him out on it too. If the market crashes while he’s all BUYBUYBUY I think it won’t be safe for him out on the streets.

    You’ll probably like this video if you haven’t seen it:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vv2WmwIEOP8

    Oh and TA on COP – YOU must be joking! If the nat gas market tumbles on next weeks 50 degree weather those estimates are going down…

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    ORCL – that’s just a timing issue with me, I’d rather wait until people see the new SQL and decide it’s no threat, then they should take off – like Apple did once Zune came out (for as long as it lasted anyway)

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    I still think that, despite all the conspiracy theorists (including a certain Wall Street Clown) who think something is up with C, it was simply a matter of $3Bn moving out of BAC and $500M out of WM and into the “safety” of C. I think this is lunacy because C ($254B) will probably be forced to buy CBH (also up but too small) or WM because they sure aren’t going to outgrow BAC/BCS’s $325B cap based on the past 3 year’s 15% growth (and those were three great years!).

    Going from 1st to distant second is very uncool in banking and I’ll bet BCS already has plenty of China relationships (130 year-old British bank that owned Hong Kong until recently).

    http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/061210/banks_china_registration.html?.v=1

    Also, did you know that, in much of the world, a Visa card is known as a Barcaly’s card? How’s that for name recognition?

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    KOSP – well at some point the transaction comes through and, if it’s below your strike, you’ve got notning. This one is moving along kind of fast an smoothly for my tastes…

    If you can, you might want to put in a buy sell spread of + .05 (to you) where you hope to take the Febs low and sell the Jans high – it will wash your commission and any remaining value left on Jan 19th will be a bonus.

    It will be hard to catch but if you have that kind of system it’s fun if you get it.

    Meanwhile, I don’t know what ABT is thinking with the price they paid but investors seem to be taking it well (only overpaid by 3% of ABT’s cap is I guess why).

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    Any time Cao!

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