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The Oxen Report: Unemployment Claims Dip But Is It Enough to Make the Market Green?

Happy Thursday to all. The market is looking interesting today. We have some solid drop in the unemployment claims that was below expectations. Yet, the market is not reacting heavily to it. That may be because of the rise yesterday, and also, we have pending home sales at 10 AM that may actually drop year-over-year. Additionally, retail sales came out looking pretty well in the month of August. Today, it may be a show me what you got sort of day with the market not moving in either direction too strongly. Yesterday, we did not enter any new positions and got out of an Overnight Trade in Donaldson Company (DCI) for no gain at 2.20. The big story, yesterday, was our August results were in for our virtual portfolios. We had a 5% gain in the Buy Virtual Portfolio and a 10% gain in the Short Sale Virtual Portfolio. Both virtual portfolios continue to improve with a 62% improvement for the year on the Buy and 21% improvement on the Short. You can read the full story and check out the statistics here.

Let’s get into some plays…

 

Buy of the Day: Limited Brands Inc. (LTD)

Analysis: August retail sales are actually the gem of the morning so far. Retailers across the country are reporting very solid gains for the final month of the summer and the back to school season. Most retailers positive gains were spurred by discounting, but it was of the best positive economic data points we have seen in quite some time. One company that may have been the golden goose among the flock was Limited Brands Inc. (LTD). The company reported same-store sales in August rose a solid 10%. Expectations were that sales would rise just over 7%. 

Limited has been one of the strong recoveries in the retail sector along with some of the top of the line names. The company saw significant growth in Q2 of 2010 with a solid quarter from its flagship Victoria’s Secret line. The story appears to be continuing into August. Recently, though, LTD has taken quite a hit to its share price. Since announcing their earnings on August 19th, the company has seen a 7% drop in share price and is sitting right at its lower bollinger band.

Today’s news of retail and unemployment claims appears to be giving the market a small gain. Futures were down before the unemployment claims and same-store sales reports. Now, futures are sitting up slightly in the green and continue to gain. The real test of whether the day will end green or red is based on pending home sales at 10 AM. I am hoping that the retail sales and retail companies can become somewhat adverse to these numbers. Limited should be able to make some strong movement upwards on financials and technicals.

Technically, LTD is in a perfect position to rise. The stock is just off its lower bollinger band and sitting below its 50-day moving average. It only needs to gain fifteen to twenty cents to break through that barrier. From there, it has tons of room to the upside. Fast stochastics are in the oversold category, but they are separating and look ready to move higher, and the stock has a very low valuation on RSI. With today’s very solid news, the outlook is bright on LTD.

We want to get involved right at the start.

Entry: We are looking to enter the stock at 24.30 – 24.50.

Exit: We are looking to exit LTD for a 2-3% gain.

Stop Loss: 3% on bottom.



Short Sale of the Day: KB Homes Inc. (KBH)

Analysis: KB Homes has been quite a nice stock as of late. In the past week and a half, the stock has put on 15% in gains. The company has risen ever since learning that existing home sales had fallen 27% in July. The stock got a boost from some great news out of Toll Brothers’ earnings report for their latest quarter and the fact that home prices are rising. Additionally, the stock received news yesterday that they ended their SEC investigation into the company with no punishment. This sent stocks soaring 11% yesterday. Overall, it has been a great week and a half for the stock.

That will all probably end today. I am not bullish at all on pending home sales at 10 AM today. The estimates are for a neutral reading from one year ago – no gain or loss in pending home sales. This is up from a -2.60% loss one month ago. I don’t think a positive reading will occur. I am not sure it will matter too greatly because I think a 2-3% gain can be expected within the first thirty minutes of trading this morning. I think that the home sector has had a great run over the past two weeks of trading, but it is a false rise. This is a market that is still very far from any truly exciting news.

The false run up should end today, and the technicals point to KBH to lead the way. The stock broke into its upper bollinger band yesterday and has actually become overbought. It is the first time since the end of July that the stock has consistent overbought results. The stock is also now over 50 on RSI. Basically, the gains have been made, and this stock is a trader’s delight. A short squeeze occurred yesterday, and traders will take gains today. Short interest will start again today. I think we see a small pop to start the morning followed by a dry up in demand and oversupply of sell orders, dropping the price.

Get in after a small rise.

Entry: We are looking to enter at 11.50 – 11.60.

Exit: We are looking to cover for a 2-3% gain.

Stop Buy: 3% on top.

 

Good Investing,

David Ristau

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Comments


  1. garbon

    David
    The Bid/Ask spread is 1.5% which would take a chunk out of the profit. And LTD is already at 24.77 pre-market. Any thoughts? Thanx………

  2. David Ristau

    Oxen Alert – New Positions, Morning Levels

    Hey all,

    We have two new positions this morning we are looking at for trading. We are looking to Buy Limited Brands (LTD) and Short Sale KB Homes (KBH).

    LTD - My range of 24.30 – 24.50 may be a bit too low. The stock is up some in pre-market. We are going to readjust entry to 24.60 – 24.80.

    KBH - I still like our range at 11.50 – 11.60. 

     

    Good Investing!

  3. David Ristau

    Garbon -

    Check out the alert, I am looking for 24.60 – 24.80 now on LTD. Honestly, I will take that range. This stock has upward movement capabilities well into the 25s. This could blow open…

  4. garbon

    Thanx

  5. David Ristau

    Oxen Alert – Entry/Exit

    LTD – We are involved at 24.75, we are looking to exit at 25.25 and above.

    KBH – Opened below the range, I am lowering entry range to 11.40 and getting in there. That will put our expected exit at 11.17 and below. 

    Good Investing!

  6. David Ristau

    KBH opened below range and has no momentum. Get in now! Readjusted entry range to 11.35 – 11.45

  7. David Ristau

    To add a little humor:

  8. David Ristau

    What happened to all my followers?

    LTD just moved into 2% gain range…I am out!

  9. David Ristau

    The all important pending home sales is up next on the plate as we focus our attention on KBH. A good report may brew trouble for our play since the stock didn’t hit the exit range yet this morning.

  10. jthoma

    nice one David

  11. jeanc

    Here David, enjoying the humor and trying to relieve frustration as having just got in missed both this morning’s pick.
    If important to you to correct, in your intro to this morning’s page you refer to exiting Donaldson,
    well either the name should be LTXC or the price should be in the 40′s
    Have a great money making day.

  12. foolishtrader

    It must take practice to move as fast as you, especially this early West coast.   Moving that fast So was your first alert just a heads up but not to pull the trigger yet?  Just get set up?  Then get in when you say you are in since the ranges keep adjusting?

  13. craigzooka

     Dipping my toes in with -200 KBH at $11.40

  14. garbon

    In KBH at 11.37 a while ago. Had a limit for LTD at 24.65 and missed it.

  15. aclend

    I never got in LTD. In KBH at 11.42, thinking of exiting now w/ 1%?

  16. David Ristau

    Jthoma -

    Thanks.

    Jean -

    LTXC is right. Complete mistake on my part. I will change now. 

    Foolish -

    Haha well it is my job to watch these stocks like a hawk. I am watching them in real time with orders on market sells already ready to go right after I buy them. My first alert I send out right after I am done with my story as a heads up about what I am playing and in what ranges to help you get set up. You could also just come in at about 9 AM and see what is up. I usually have the positions published by then. The ranges tend to not adjust on entry and exit, but with KBH, it was never going to hit my range. It opened well below and popped just a little bit. I readjusted the range. If you follow the range exactly, you would not be able to enter KBH. So, I readjusted the range in another alert. Some of the trades take a lot of attention like KBH…and I understand not everyone can be johnny on the spot. If you refresh the board every 3-4 minutes for the first thirty minutes, though, you’ll be golden. If you can’t though, try to play what you can. This is also why I do Overnight Trades, Midterm Trades, and Weekly Plays. Those appeal more to someone who has less time to be on the market. Hope this information helps.

    Craig - 

    Good luck with it. You are looking up 1% right now, and the pending home sales are coming!!!

  17. David Ristau

    Garbon -

    Sorry about the miss my friend. I am hoping KBH works for you and everyone…been a bit stubborn so far.

    Aclend -

    A gain is safe for sure before the 10 AM report. If you have the gain and are satisfied then take it. Never chase if you don’t feel comfortable.

  18. David Ristau

    I can’t believe Burger King is going private…

     

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/burger-king-to-be-taken-private-in-4-billion-deal-2010-09-02?siteid=yhoof

  19. newbie_trader

    Hello David,
    Newbie to your site. congrats on the work and success. I look forward to learning more about your method and join in on your success.
     
    Jerry

  20. David Ristau

    Jerry/Newbie -

    Thank you. Let me know if you have any questions or anything. I try to be very straight forward in my approach, but the market can be confusing. I am here for anything you need. You can ask me about other stocks than I am covering, financial questions, trading questions, whatever. I am here for you all.

  21. David Ristau

    Pending sales climb 5.2% in July. KBH is about to jump…

  22. David Ristau

    I am holding down my fort. A small pop may represent a chance to DD if you have the cash. If you do not, hold on here, this should be temporary.

  23. garbon

    Maybe I was clever. At KBH 11.38, I moved the stop to 11.40 and got stopped out (-0.2%). Now it’s up past 11.55.

  24. David Ristau

    I am DD at 11.62. Adjusted entry at 11.51. I will take any gains.

  25. SaiRam

    Is it the right time to buy KBH?
    I am not involved in the morning

  26. David Ristau

    Garbon -

    Haha…I hope you aren’t…I’m in double. I think this gain is temporary. KBH is very, very toppy. This small gain represents another selling place.

  27. David Ristau

    Sai -

    Oh yes. If you can get in now…DEFINITELY!

  28. garbon

    "I am DD at 11.62. Adjusted entry at 11.51. I will take any gains."
    Are you saying that you DD at 11.51 and expect it to drop again today?

  29. David Ristau

    Garbon -

    I doubled down at 11.62. So, I had 11.40 and 11.62 as entry prices. That adjusted my entry to an average of 11.51. So, I want any gains below 11.51. I do think it will drop. It has some gains right now, which should be expected with the news, but KBH has put on way too much lately. Once the temporary demand runs out, this one will drop like a rock in water. We are only ten minutes into the news. Watch twenty minutes from now…

  30. David Ristau

    Side note,

    LTD is up to 25.35. If you missed earlier exit, great place to get out for a solid gain!

  31. aclend

    Out w/ a nickel earlier, back in at 11.67. Is this a good longer-term short or just a daytrade?

  32. garbon

    OK, I understand. It also helped to look at its chart, where the price has been going parabolic and pushing the top of the Boll band. Thanx…….

  33. David Ristau

    Aclend -

    Honestly, it does look very good for a little bit of time. I am only going to play it as a daytrade, but it has gained nearly 20% in a little over a week…AND ITS A HOMEBUILDER. I think it definitely has a lot of downside potential. Let’s see what we can get today first.

  34. David Ristau

    Garbon -

    Yep. You see that upper band is at 11.75 on the chart above. That is always a great ceiling to think about on overvalued stocks that are moving upwards on post-news. If it was at 11.50 and the upper band was 11.75, and the stock got some great news like strong earnings or an upgrade or something else huge, then that band can get thrown out. On a day when the stock is moving on industry news, though, that band is very important. We have seen that KBH can’t break 11.70. 

  35. newbie_trader

    David,
    ON your entry into your suggested trade(s) do you have a set plan on your entry, i.e. do you get in pre-mkt or do you go right on the bell or do you use a 5 minute chart to get in at your target?
     
    Jerry

  36. David Ristau

    The pending home sales number is such a sham, read the end of this news blip:

    WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Pending home sales in July rose 5.2% from downwardly revised June levels, the National Association of Realtors reported Thursday, though the indicator shows the market for existing homes is still depressed after the expiration of a key tax benefit. As the availability of a home buyer tax credit worth as much as $8,000 expired at the end of April, the pending home sales index plunged 29.9% in May and another 2.8% in June. The NAR had initially reported a 2.6% drop for June. The July index came in better than the 1% monthly drop that economists had forecast, though sales in July were nonetheless 19.1% below those during the same month in 2009.

  37. David Ristau

    Newbie -

    I usually set the range at where I think the stock will be in the first minutes of the open, and I tend to get in there. If it is not, I reassess will it get into that range or should I adjust my range. At that point, I make a decision, report it on here and take whatever action.

  38. garbon

    KBH: In at 11.57

  39. David Ristau

    Garbon -

    Good luck…I hope I’m right here. Sit cool for the morning, there is a long trading day ahead with lots of time for this bad boy to sell.

  40. garbon

    Patience, patience, and more patience!

  41. David Ristau

    Garbon -

    Haha its tough sometimes…but winning traders have it.

  42. David Ristau

    One encouraging sign is that KBH trails most other homebuilders in gains today. LEN up 1.02%, DHI 1.68%, PHM 1.21%, HOV 3%, NVR 1.3%…KBH is 0.96%

  43. foolishtrader

    Wow, after subtracting brokerage fees and taxes your 62% gain drops to about 35%, but of course you have to pay taxes on everything.

  44. garbon

    I’ll take the 35% anyday!

  45. garbon

    David, any other trades coming for today?

  46. David Ristau

    Foolish and Garbon -

    Brokerage fees are included in that 62% gain, so gains are much higher actually. Taxes though are not included. 

  47. foolishtrader

    so are you stopped out of KBH?

  48. David Ristau

    Foolish -

    Nope. I have an entry at 11.52 with a 3% stop, so I will be at 11.86.

  49. jthoma

    hard to remember sometimes what immediate gratification animals we are-LOL!

  50. David Ristau

    Jthoma -

    Haha yes…that is why day trading exists. 

  51. jthoma

    david- don’t tease Phil about number of post or he will make a philosophical political satement and crush you with posts- you won’t even be able to count his posts-LOL!

  52. David Ristau

    Jthoma -

    Yeah I know. Those political comments cause quite the stir. I have found though I can battle him with automobile posts and oil posts, but they are still no match. 

  53. David Ristau

    KBH testing new highs…this may turn into quite the waiting game. No worries though. I am still very confident in my assessment of this company.

  54. newbie_trader

    David,
    Since you offered help on "anything" which web browser are you using? I am using Firefox with the Reload feature but it seems to stop "reloading" as configured after I type in a comment and I have to do it manually. Any suggestion on a browser or refreshing that may help?

  55. David Ristau

    Newbie -

    I use Safari, but I just refresh my page manually… I don’t think there is a good way to do this for live streaming.

  56. David Ristau

    Well,

    I am throwing in the rest of my Short Sale account into KBH…completely against my philosophy. I am TD at 11.80. This puts my average entry at 11.62. I am thinking about this one may turn into an Overnight Trade. 

  57. jthoma

    if jobs is bad tomorrow OR we anticipate that this afternoon- the trade will be good!

  58. hazeltine

    Hi Dave,
    Where is stop on KBH now?

  59. hazeltine

    Here is another question:  Do you have a revised downside target?

  60. newbie_trader

    David,
    Help me get an understanding of your strategy, you use (4) accounts of $2500,
    So if KBH is trading at $11.52, using Acct1 you would  2500/11.52=217 shares
    and your target and stop are 2-3%
    Jerry

  61. David Ristau

    Jthoma -

    Yeah…I think this rally won’t last past lunchtime unfortunately.

    Hazel -

    Stop is now for KBH at 11.95.

    Newbie -

    I use four mini-accounts in one large account…more like rotating accounts. That is for my Buy portfolio. For my short sale, I have three accounts of $2500 starting money. The target and stop you have correct.

  62. David Ristau

    I want to do an Overnight Trade in Take Two Interactive (TTWO), but I have had so much problems with these lately…anyone have any advice or thoughts on the company. 

  63. jthoma

    david- no thought on company but feel that with the jobs number in the morning I would prefer to play russian roulette with my revolver- just my .02 worth

  64. foolishtrader

    When you say "these" you mean overnight trades or this category of stock?

  65. David Ristau

    Jthoma -

    Yeah

    Foolish -

    I meant Overnights.

  66. jthoma

    david- unless the number is cooked ( and yes I believe in those type things) it has the potential to be very ugly!

  67. David Ristau

    Jthoma -

    Really you think so? Why?

  68. foolishtrader

    The market can move its entire trading range overnight these days.  Better be pretty confident about which way it will go tomorrow.

  69. David Ristau

    Foolish -

    Yeah…I like it, but I am too scared about the unemployment numbers tomorrow. Perhaps we will let it pass.

  70. David Ristau

    Here’s the deal:

    If anyone wants a really risky play for tomorrow, I have one for an Overnight Trade. Let me know if you want it, otherwise I won’t waste yours and my time.

  71. patronald

    Please do

  72. David Ristau

    Patronald -

    What’s your email. I’ll write it up and send it to you. I don’t want to put it on here…too worried.

  73. patronald

    REP@SAN.RR.COM

  74. SaiRam

    David
    I am also interested

  75. jthoma

    david- have read sevral articles lately that "small business" is laying off employees right and left due to the lack of credit availability- they cannot even borrow enough to run their businesses so obviously the only thing to do is lay people off

  76. David Ristau

    Sai -

    Email?

    Jthoma -

    Sounds good…we did get a rise in unemployment claims. I am worried the GOV will cook the books especially with the bloodbath on the Capitol they are having.

  77. SaiRam

    vijipuchak@gmail.com

  78. humvee4me

    David; you’re thinking they will provide a better number than what’s real to keep the economy from looking so bad right before elections?

  79. humvee4me

    shorted kbh at 11.72  (sometimes its good to be on the west coast and get up late!)

  80. David Ristau

    Humvee -

    I’m not sure I follow your question. I don’t think the government has their hand in every jar that measures our economy, but they are the cookie jar on unemployment … if you follow my analogy. I hope I’m on target with your comment. Good luck with KBH…it does help.

  81. humvee4me

    Thanks, you going to keep kbh overnight if we don’t get stopped out?

  82. jthoma

    humvee- I not only think they might- I think they do- the current administration only has one job- get reelected! They cannot stand a market selloff of magnitude between now and elections- they can always do it and then come back with the standard " revision" in a month or so

  83. foolishtrader

    David looking at the past performance post…   where do the 4/5/6% gains come from?  Do you revise your targets before they are hit or what?

  84. David Ristau

    Humvee -

    I am going to keep it unless I get some gains.

    Foolish -

    Sometimes I have exit ranges at 3-4%. Additionally, I do Weekly Plays that have a range of 4-6% in gains. Third, I do Overnight Trades. These don’t have limits on exit range. We have gotten 10-15% at times from those. July was a great month for them during earnings season. Off the top of my head, I know TER and SKX were both worth 10%+ in Overnight Trades.

  85. David Ristau

    Sai and Patron -

    I have sent you the email about TTWO Overnight Trade.

    All -

    If anyone else wants to read the story, let me know. I don’t want to post it on here because I am not going to buy it.

  86. humvee4me

    jthoma :  yes, we agree; my take on professional politicians of all stripes is that their primary end point is to get re elected, which is the way its supposed to work as long as they play fair, which of course they don’t.  I’m going less and less to Phils postings as its always about politics and I’m here to make money.  Today he posted that its governments role to create jobs, I must have missed that part of the founding fathers papers.  He exaggerates the profits and minimizes the taxes that evil corporations pay, to justify his socialist agenda; then if I call him on it, he ignores the post.  As you can tell, I’m sick of it. 

  87. SaiRam

    Thanks

  88. David Ristau

    Humvee -

    I think today is the first time I ever have talked politics or even mentioned it. I have no politics. I’m a capitalist. I want to make money!

  89. David Ristau

    Sai -

    Your welcome. Let me know if you play it.

  90. jthoma

    david- agreed- that is why I find Phil to be such a dicotomy!

  91. jthoma

    humvee- politics are like ass—oles to me- everybody has their own and noone else wants to get too close!

  92. David Ristau

    Anyone see KBH…starting to drop off this afternoon. Yum!

  93. foolishtrader

    Don’t jinx it :)

  94. jthoma

    told you I liked it but could not execute on my put order as specialist was using me as his backstop so I cancelled as that pisses me off- hope you kill em and the general market follows this pm

  95. David Ristau

    Foolish -

    Yeah…I knocked my desk.

    Jthoma -

    Moderation? Why is your comment being moderated? 

  96. jthoma

    I guess I used the "tinkle " word- LOL!

  97. David Ristau

    Jthoma -

    Ah yeah…haha

  98. David Ristau

    Don’t worry I approved it.

  99. foolishtrader

    David it probably would not make much difference but then again…
    If you want some extra work,  track on the side for a while and see how it affects the gain/loss if you always set your target at whatever % above the bottom of your entry range, and again if use the top of range, to contrast to setting against whatever you entered at.
    Reverse that for short positions.

  100. David Ristau

    Foolish -

    What end result are you expecting to find?

  101. jeanc

    David,
    do you have a sell range for TSL,?  noticed it just about touched $28 earlier today.

  102. foolishtrader

    No expectations.  It just could be that always setting target from low point turns out better as it might prevent stops.
    Or conversely, setting from the high point turns out better as the targets may tend to be conservative.
    But probably averages out and in any case lots of small good trades is the goal I think and not try for frequent home runs.
    I just thought with all the free time you must have you probably needed something else to do.

  103. David Ristau

    Foolish -

    Free time…haha. What do you think I do? Have you seen the # of comments? You think I just sit here and wait for someone to ask something…hahaha. Oh my. I work my a** off bud researching trades and getting better, reading stories, marketing myself and my report, researching questions, on and on.

    Jean -

    Yeah pretty sweet huh. Yeah I think its coming soon. I will sell at 30.

  104. foolishtrader

    I was of course not serious about the having free time.

  105. David Ristau

    Foolish -

    Haha aight.

  106. foolishtrader

    If all you did all day so far was buy S&P below 1083.5 and sell above 1084.5 you would be golden.  Of course 50/50 whether you end on the right or wrong side of that if still have an open position.

  107. David Ristau

    haha

  108. diamond

    David – Did you watch the Apple event (link) yesterday? Steve Jobs indicated that the iPod touch is presently the #1 selling mobile game device.
     
    Also … Take-Two News Release: Aug 23, 2010
     
    What are your thought on making TTWO a long term play!
     

  109. SaiRam

    David,
    What do you think TTWO as short sale?

  110. David Ristau

    Diamond -

    I like where your head is at and look into it. Games are highly cyclical, and it is really hard to predict them. Yet, TTWO is one of the only companies that has that sort of sustained title in GTA. I will give it a lookover.

    Sai -

    Definitely don’t like it as a short. I mean it may end up that way tomorrow, but I would think it is much more likely to improve than drop. That is why I recommended it.

  111. humvee4me

    David,  KBH  i’m ahead by just 1%, hold overnight, cover, or perhaps cover 1/2?

  112. David Ristau

    Humvee -

    If you are working with a nice sum of $, then cover 1/2. Otherwise, I would cover before close with gains. 

  113. humvee4me

    Thanks David, its a small position and I think i’ll close it out; thanks again for another winning trade.

  114. David Ristau

    Oxen Alert – Position Update

    LTD – This one worked out well for us for a 2% gain. We got involved this morning at 24.75 and exited later at 25.25. A nice 2% gain…this one ended up gaining 4-5% from our entry.

    KBH – Well, after a triple down, we are finally sitting up about 1% on our averaged position, so that is nice. We are hoping the last hour can wring a bit more out of this one, so we don’t have to hold overnight.

    Good Investing!

  115. David Ristau

    Here’s a musing…

    Would anyone enjoy if Phil offered a separate sort of payment where you only get access to me and my picks and alerts, but it was cheaper than his deal?

  116. foolishtrader

    I think that would be a good idea for you, options trader, sabient…
    But you are suggesting breaking up the empire which can be a tough fight.

  117. jthoma

    david- better yet- a site with no political rhetoric at a slightly increased price

  118. foolishtrader

    Love politics at risk of your soul, ignore politics at risk of your bank account.

  119. foolishtrader

    But I agree, this is not a political venue.

  120. hazeltine

    To answer your question – Yes. 

  121. bobhu

    Wow, David, your are very popular today, email me that risky trade too.
     
    bobhu@yahoo.com
     
    Thanks.

  122. David Ristau

    Bob -

    Will do.

    All -

    Thanks for the responses.

  123. jthoma

    actually david- I prefer to read it all market related as I want as much imput as possible and at different times will gravitate my concentration from one blog to another but I am sure many people do not want all that. There will certainly be times when one strategy is currently working better than the other.

  124. David Ristau

     Jthoma -

    Thank you for the opinion.

  125. jeanc

    Thanks David for thinking once more to our benefit.
    Always open to ways of saving on expenses
    But, to be contrarian
    I enjoy reading Phil. I don’t have to agree with what he has to say to get value from it. Maybe, if there were more Phil’s around we would not be in the pickle we are in currently
    I watch all sorts of controversial commentaries which I think we all need to do. This is a complicated world.
    So unless the saving is significant I’m in favor of the way it is.

  126. David Ristau

    Jean -

    Okay thank you as well.

  127. David Ristau

    Well…it looks like we are taking KBH overnight. If you aren’t feeling it though I understand.

  128. hazeltine

    Hi Dave – So much for wringing out some more downside.  The market seems awfully confident going into the labor report tomorrow.  Hold or close?

  129. David Ristau

     im holding

  130. hazeltine

    I took half off the table for a small loss.

  131. David Ristau

    Looks like TTWO did what I thought…darn.

  132. David Ristau

    From Marketwatch on TTWO:

     

    SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — Take-Two Interactive Software Inc. reported a surprise profit for the July quarter on Tuesday and boosted its forecast for the remainder of the fiscal year, citing strong demand for its video-game titles.

    Most notably, Take-Two (TTWO 8.85+0.29+3.39%) is now predicting an annual profit for the fiscal year — the first time it has done so without a new release from its blockbuster "Grand Theft Auto" franchise. This was a goal set by the current management team when it took control of the game publisher back in early 2007.

     


    Rockstar Games

     

    "We promised we would achieve that goal, and we will achieve that goal," Take-Two Chief Executive Strauss Zelnick said in an interview Thursday. "We made it not just by a hair, but a country mile."

    Shares of Take-Two jumped XX% in after-hours trading on Thursday following the results. The stock is down 13% for the year.

    For the third fiscal quarter ended July 31, Take-Two reported net income of $5.9 million, or 7 cents a share, compared with a net loss of $56.5 million or 73 cents a share for the same period last year.

    On a non-GAAP basis, the company said it earned $26 million, or 28 cents a share. That figure excludes certain stock-based compensation items as well as charges related to discontinued operations.

    Sales jumped more than 273% to $354.1 million.

    Analysts were expecting a loss of 9 cents a share on a non-GAAP basis on sales of $294.7 million, according to consensus estimates from Thomson Reuters.

    Sales for the quarter were led by "Red Dead Redemption," which launched in May and has sold more than 6.9 million units. The company also said that catalog sales helped the period, including sales from its blockbuster "Grand Theft Auto" and "NBA 2K" franchises.

    "’Red Dead’ is performing extremely well, but it’s obviously not just ‘Red Dead,’" said Zelnick, who added that strong sales from the company’s catalog, plus its growing library of digital titles, added to the mix.

    The "Red Dead" sales, plus upcoming title launches, allowed Take-Two to shoot up its forecast for both the current quarter and fiscal year, which ends in October.

    For the fourth quarter ending Oct. 31, the company now expects revenue of $270 million to $320 million, compared with its previous forecast for sales of $200 million to $250 million. Earnings for the quarter are expected to come in between 10 cents to 20 cents a share, on a non-GAAP basis.

    Take-Two boosted the forecast despite the fact that it shifted "LA Noire" from a planned fourth-quarter release into the next fiscal year. Other titles slated for the October quarter include the already launched "Mafia II," "NBA 2K 11" and "Sid Meier’s Civilization V."

    For the fiscal year, the company expects to report sales of $1.05 billion to $1.1 billion, compared with the $880 million to $980 million previously forecast.

    Earnings are expected to come in between 60 cents to 70 cents a share for the year, on a non-GAAP basis. Take-Two earlier had expected to lose 10 cents to 30 cents a share for the period. 

  133. bobhu

    Another great call, David…Thanks.

  134. David Ristau

    Those who did TTWO…how’s that 12%.

  135. anders0

    David,

     
    I would be in favor with a separate, lower cost, subscription to just your picks and alerts. Your section of PSW tends to be geared to members with lower amounts of capital and with current price hikes, a substantial portion of earnings would go towards subscription costs alone. Phil could also use your section as a way to get more members – get new fokes hooked on your 75% success rate with stocks , then upgrade to get complete access. Just a thought.

    Also can you send me the TTWO trade you that you didn’t publish? I’m curious to see what could have happened. jstanderson@gmail.com
     
    Thanks.

  136. diamond

    David – Before the close, I started a small long term position in TTWO … however, now I may just turn it into a lucrative overnight play! :-)

  137. David Ristau

    TTWO Play that some received:

    Analysis:

     

    Take-Two Interactive was very attractive to me because of its top line games Bioshock 2 and Red Dead Redemption. In the past quarter, the video game industry has been anything but exciting, which is part of the reason for a 20% decline in TTWO’s stock price over the past three months. The company’s industry is anything but thrilling as well. Earnings surprises for competitors THQ, Electronic Arts, and Activition Blizzard have been above estimates at 20% or more, but the companies have not had exceptional revenue or guidance. Video game sales were down in the May – August period that is TTWO’s Q2, and hardware companies and Gamestop have seen significant declines.

     

    It is definitely an industry in a funk. Yet, I find TTWO very attractive because of Red Dead Redemption. The game was the gaming industry for May and June. It was the top selling game in both months, and it was still in the top ten in July. The company has shipped 5 million copies of the game! Analysts predicted that the company would break even at 4 million copies. The company is definitely exceeding expectations for the game, and this gives me reason to believe that the company can beat a -0.09 EPS estimate. The company in the past quarter before they even saw sales of RDR forecasted a -0.10 EPS estimate, and the game is doing very well compared to initial expectations.

     

    Doing some simple math, if the company sold 5 million copies at $43 per game to distributors, then they made $215 million. The company is predicting that they made $250 – $300 million with most analysts leaning towards $300 million. Therefore, the company would need around $85 million in revenue to be able to beat revenue expectations. The company has a nice lineup of games in the Classics with the Grand Theft Auto series, NBA 2K Series, NHL 2K Series, and others.

     

    Further, the company released Bioshock 2 in February. That game was the leader of the industry in February and fell off the face of the earth in March and April. The game, however, with the help of a GTA IV hangover led the company to profitability in Q2 despite the video game industry falling apart. So now, the company has a game that doubled Bioshock 2 in sales, a similar gaming industry, and we are supposed to expect severe losses after a 0.20 EPS Q2. It does not make a lot of sense to me. The company has costs, sure, but they are not that much higher for one game to the next that would make such a difference.

     

    The future also looks strong for the company. They have NBA 2K11, NHL 2K11, and Mafia II in Q4. Mafia II is already a Top Ten seller, and in a recent trip to a Electronics Boutique, Red Dead Redemption was still the store’s #1 best seller. This release line gives me a lot of reason to be excited about the company’s future growth.

     

    One of the biggest speculations and aspects attached to the company’s success is its Grand Theft Auto line. A lot of people believe that the company needs to say when the next game will be released. In my opinion, though, if they can prove to be profitable two quarters in a row without GTA anchoring the line, then TTWO will have proven they are a company that can do it.

     

    Perhaps it has the underdog appeal to me, but I think the company has something good going for them. I would definitely say that they are going to beat earnings. Risk comes in their guidance and the market. Guidance forward needs to be strong, and if it is not, this may not get off the ground. Additionally, tomorrow, is the unemployment report. The stock also has gotten 3.5% in gains today, which is muting the undervaluation point.

     

    Entry: I wouldn’t buy it unless its under 8.85…more like 8.80.

  138. jthoma

    david- great call- sorry if I influenced you negatively

  139. hazeltine

    Hi Dave – What do you think about DD on KBH at around 12?

  140. craigzooka

     KBH options are fairly liquid.  So rather than double down at 12 I decided to cover my short stock and sell 10 Sep 12/13 call spreads for a net credit of $300.  This uses up $700 in buying power instead of the $2000 in in buying power shorting 400 shares uses.

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