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Recovery Wednesday?

OK, that title is only alliterative if you use your Elmer Fudd voice

If that was it for the drop I am in big trouble because I have no idea what to buy at these prices.  Obviously, I still have grave concerns that are apparently not shared by other investors who are piling money back into the markets after Monday’s pullback.

We are still not in orbit yet but the market is looking pretty weightless in overseas trading with (at 5 am) Asia, Europe and US futures all firmly green.

The GDP came in better than expected (2.2% vs. 1.8%) and the core PCE remains at a very manageable 2.2% – it’s the Goldilocks economy for sure!

Asia was led higher by Japan as the Nikkei gained 221 on a strong industrial output (up 1.6%) which brought the Hang Seng back 141 points, recovering almost a third of yesterday’s drop.

Europe’s bounce is less impressive with indexes over there picking up about half a point but globally, we seem to be holding our ranges, which is very good stuff.

The dollar is down 12% against the Euro (the world’s strongest currency) this year alone and 50% over the past 5 years and we can only hope, in that longer-term perspective, that this is some sort of bottom before we tip over into the funny money category.

We are completely depending on the kindness of strangers to help our currency now as nothing is being done at home to narrow the trade deficit (we send $70Bn a month out of the country) or the budget deficit (we borrow $50B a month to keep the country running) so the only thing that will save the dollar is other Central Banks propping it up artificially.

It’s not something I like to base my future on but, hey, that’s just me – you guys go to town! 

Speaking of which, I hate to be a naysayer on the markets and one reason is it hurts readership.  That’s right, I’m going to let you into a dirty little financial writing secret and tell you that readership goes down if I take off my cheerleading dress.

This is the main reason I don’t do advertising on the site (but I will soon), as much as I like to think I am above that stuff, when I had Google ads I used to get bothered by any drop in the daily take (kind of like a Nielson rating). 

Nobody wants to hear the economy is about to collapse or the market is going to tank so it is human nature for readers to want to spend their valuable time reading things that make them feel good, rather than worried.

I’m just saying this now as my readership is through the roof thanks to a WSJ mention the other day and I feel the need to keep myself honest in what I consider a very tricky spot for the market and also to make all you nice people aware of this major industry dynamic to put what you read at other sites into context.

Telling you bad news costs money!  If I had an editor and shareholders to answer to it is unlikely we would even be having this discussion, so imagine the pressure that most publications are under to keep you coming back.  Always remember that the press is a business and their mission is to keep you reading – sadly that is more important than giving you the truth!

Now, where were we?  Oh yes, dollar = potential disaster and you are unlikely to hear it until after it happens as the press prefers to give you the warm fuzzys so you will click on a Google ad for more viagra.  See I can summarize when I have to!

None of these ground-based issues will bother me though if we do finally get into orbit where we can look down at our deficits and the wars and the housing market and laugh because they all look like ants from Dow 15,000!

So let’s watch our levels to see if this “rally” is going to have any legs:

  • Dow – testing 12,200, very bad below it, 12,300 is breakout
    • Transports must hold 2,650 and 2,700 is not all that impressive
  • S&P – must hold 1,385 and a long way to 1,400
  • NYSE - 8,900 or bust – literally
  • Nasdaq - needs 2,450 to breathe again
    • SOX must retake 480 and get back to 490

Crude will be interesting as a stronger than expected US economy may salvage demand expectations against what should be a dollar bounce today.

Inventories are out at 10:30 and once again CNBC comes up with numbers from hell expecting a draw of just 300Kb despite a .5% expected increase in refinery utilization and a supposed OPEC production cut (and last week’s Alaska outage).  

Half a percent increase in refinery utilization alone would mean 100,000 additional barrels a day are being converted to products – how can they not expect a bigger draw???

Not only that but they expect a 700Kb BUILD in gasoline and a 500Kb BUILD in distillates.  That would be a build of 500Kb more than production has increased last week!  Right after Thanksgiving (the second biggest driving week of the year)?  At the beginning of winter (when people stock up on heating oil)?

Oh well, what are you gonna do?  We’ll see which way the wind blows in comments later but at this point I am just curious to see how far they can push this game…

Gold should nudge down on a stronger dollar today and we’ll see how it handles $640.  There’s a lot of short money on the buck and we’ll see if it’s enough to give us a squeeze today.  If not, I’ll still be pretty worried.

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I’m still on the sidelines but I’ll be working back into a few of our beaten down picks like CAT, MOT, DELL, SBUX…  unless we get rejected from our lower levels (like Dow 12,200) so let’s be very careful out there!

Consolation Prize Queen, TIF (we have the Jan $35s at $2.20) had great earnings and should at least make $37.50 and I will be half out on any pullback with a 20% of profit stop on the rest.  We also have the June $25s and I’ll keep a 20% stop on those – hopefully it won’t trigger.

JWN is still just sitting around and now the Jan $50s are looking good for $2 (we have the Jan ’08 $50s at $6.70 after buying out the Jan $50 calls we sold last week).

BA is another one where the calls we just sold now look attractive as a buy and the Jan $90s for $2.45 are a good play if the Dow stays over 12,200.

We took those CAT $65 calls to the cleaners and now I like buying the Jan $65s for .95 but this has been a bad trade more often than not (it sure was for the guy we sold them to!).

GE June $35s are back at $1.75, where we liked them last time before we made 40%!

I’m going to double down on the DOW Mar $45s for .25 as long as oil stays below $61 (or gets below $61 as the case may be!).

Oops, I forgot to mention yesterday that we did manage to get into the COF Jan ’08 75s for $10in early morning comments, but we never sold the calls against as the stock was strong all day after the morning drop.  We totally lucked out with a Cramer pump and we will almost certainly sell calls today!

A cautious approach is recommended and I’m still going to be 75% + in cash until we are sure we have broken orbit because, as we’ve seen Monday, gravity can be a bitch!

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  1. arnie

    Phil
    TM is begging to get picked up but can’t decide what calls to choose from
    Can you please help

  2. Charles

    November 29, 2006, 4:01 PM (GMT+02:00)

    A former government spokesman, Nawaf Obaid, said Riyadh will use money, weapons or oil power to prevent Iraqi Sunnis from being massacred by Iranian-backed Shiite militias – even at the risk of a regional war. Obaid says his views do not represent those of the Saudi government. DEBKAfile’s Middle East sources note that he appears to speak for a group of very influential Saudis in Washington, including ambassador Prince Turki al-Faisal. US vice president Dick Cheney visited Riyadh Saturday, Nov. 25, ahead of the US president’s talks in Amman Wednesday and Thursday. Obaid listed Saudi options as being: providing assistance to Sunni military leaders – primarily ex-Baathists leading the insurgency; establishing new Sunni brigades, or strangling Iran’s funding of Iraq’s Shiites by boosting oil production and halving prices.

  3. ramana

    Congrats, Phil
    Please let us know which edition (print or online), issue of WSJ…
    thanks

  4. bullnotbear

    Ground control to Major Tom???

  5. 1st ztr addict

    Anyone know why CSCO down today?

  6. MJ

    U.S. Oct. new-home sales fall 3.2% to 1.004 mln pace
    U.S. Oct. new-home median price up 2% y-o-y to $248,500
    U.S. Oct. new-home inventory falls 0.7%, 7-month supply
    U.S. new-home sales down 25.4% year-on-year
    U.S. July, Aug., Sept. new-home sales revised lower

  7. MJ

    U.S. new-home sales down 25.4% year-on-year
    U.S. Oct. new-home sales fall 3.2% to 1.004 mln pace
    U.S. Oct. new-home median price up 2% y-o-y to $248,500
    U.S. Oct. new-home inventory falls 0.7%, 7-month supply
    U.S. July, Aug., Sept. new-home sales revised lower

  8. D

    Anyone playing oil before the numbers?

  9. zmann

    Just EOG but its more of a long term hate, hate thing than the numbers. They’re having their annual analyst conference today and definitely failing to impress.

  10. arnie

    out of my Jan 40 TIF at 1.1
    thks Phil

  11. Shane

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  12. arnie

    Out of my Jan 40 at 1.1
    thks Phil

  13. arnie

    test

  14. bullnotbear

    Isnt it nice to see some green again?

  15. Shane

    Hi Phil,
    You are so famous now…from WSJ

  16. Soccer_F1

    XOM 72.50 puts are down to $0.45.

    Phil, DD or take the loss?

  17. ramana

    thanks Shane

  18. Soccer_F1

    VLO jumped higher at 10:29

  19. arnie

    out of tif jan 40 at 1.1 -thks phil
    considering reloading on sndk april 42.5 -your advice Phil?
    please note LLY finally on the move again

  20. Cap

    This oil pump is ridiculous. Must be sold. Minor minor draws. whoopee.

  21. Soccer_F1

    U.S. crude supply down 300,000 brls last week: Energy Dept.

    02. U.S. distillate supply down 1 mln brls: Energy Dept.

    03. U.S. gasoline supply down 600,000 brls: Energy Dept.

  22. cap

    I don’t see how anyone can view that inventory report as bullish. Very benign. Supplys of oil and gas still at obscene levels.

  23. Anonymous

    said it before…….with XOM, betting against 6-8billion in stock buyback per qtr is not the smartest move. BTW, server getting overloaded at times. I guess the “amateur investor” picked up a few readers with that mention.

    M

  24. D

    Who could have guessed? Bigger draw than the CNBC predictions. Cold weather in December, what a shock!

  25. zmann

    Phil,

    You’re so right about the analyst estimates for oil. Given that it was twice as cold in the northeast than the prior week they all of sudden expect a build? What a bunch of market manipulating jerks. And CNBC hasn’t got 2 braincells to rub together to take notice. Unreal.

  26. John, the Other One

    Phil, it’s funny that readership decreases on bad news. I’m perfectly happy with shorting in a lousy market, and read just as much as ever. Go figure.

  27. cap

    The market is telling me I am wrong; I think they just want to pump this sector.

  28. i2trade

    Phil,
    Do you think this is a DD point on XOM? got in y’day and wondering why I did!!

  29. Soccer_F1

    At this rate, XOM migt break $75 today

  30. phil

    XOM – hold and cry! It’s exactly what I said would happen in the morning as the “expectations” were no even based in reality – I cguess I should have played the upside but let them send OIH to $145 and we’ll keep a shap eye on XOM volume to see what’s really going on.

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    VLO – We have got to just make that one trade every week, whatever VLO does at 10:29, bet XOM for the same direction one minute later – close the trade at 10:45 and take the rest of the week off!

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    TIF – agree, half out, stop on the rest – that was a huge move!

    SNDK – not with the SOX down, considering shorting the Q’s here because of the SOX

    LLY – 200 dma resistance at $54.25, nice if it breaks up and holds it but no way I would fight the markets on this. Dow not breaking 12,200 so I’m not loving this market.

  31. Soccer_F1

    Crude @ $62 — wow!

  32. kustomz

    Should we be so shocked as to the oil “manipulation” why is any different to the manipulation in other markets? TXN looking really ugly.

  33. Shane

    I am strickly followed Phil’s VLO rule that saved me in this upturn in oils.

  34. tom2oc

    Hey Cap, no worries, there are other plays out there than OIH but if USO ever negates that bull flag breakout I will get some puts to hedge RRC calls. X up 3% and those Jan 75s went from 3.4 to 4.6 and I’m about to get out or hedge it. Have a great day!

  35. tom2oc

    Hey Cap, no worries, there are other plays out there than OIH. But this said if USO ever negates that bull flag breakout I will get some puts to hedge RRC calls. X up 3% and those Jan 75s went from 3.4 to 4.6 and I’m about to get out or hedge it. Have a great day!

  36. cap

    I hate the oil crooks. No worries; hedged some of my short w/ covered puts (increases my short price). I can wait a few days.

  37. just shiv

    Wish I had not bought the OIL puts

    oh well …..

  38. just shiv

    I wish aapl would go to 95

    MA is down :-(

  39. ramana

    OIH up 3.15 to $143.90 …and sanity where have you gone?

  40. phil

    XOM – I bid .35 for the $72.50s and couldn’t get filled and I’ve decided to pair that trade with DIA Jan $121 puts for $1.40 as one or the other will come through.

    Oil at $62 will kill this market sooner or later and the market just got fantastic news on the GDP and a great spin by the Fed Heads so either it breaks 12,200 and I take a .20 loss or the pullback continues after a brief interlude.

    This +.84 today is coming on a neutral dollar and that flat dollar concerns me because what does it take to convince foreigners our country is still worth the risk?

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    Here comes the SOX by the way and the DOW is breaking 12,200 so I’m holding off on the above mentioned negative trades if we hold these levels.

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    INTC with a nice pick-up today (1.4%), BA up a point, AA up 2% at $30 and virtually no Dow component negative!

    =================================

    There’s been a revision to Q2 Gross personal income from .7% to 7.7%, they were off by a factor of 10!

    Statistics, upon which Trillions of dollars worth of decisions are based every day, are a joke!

    This means people can afford to keep spending like wild. It means the wage inflation I predicted in the spring actually did happen – they only told us it didn’t!!!

    No puts – this justifies a moon shot for the markets (unless they revise it again).

    We only have to worry about oil, which is just about at the 5% rule in the past 4 days ($62.25 would do it).

    This is all going to get very complicated with the wages driving the dollar back up and explaining a lot of other anomylous data that will force a reassessment of a lot of positions. I’m sure I am as incredulous as any European trader about the wage data (off by a trillion in spending money) and we will all have to sleep on this one!

  41. tom2oc

    Phil, with all due respect, why oil at 62 will kill this market if it wasn’t able to kill it at 76? Heck, oil went up non stop for 3 1/2 years and this market enjoyed a huge bull market while it did so. I’ve been reading your take on oil rallys not being good for the market and it reminded me saying the same thing a year ago before realizing that this market is going up on oil and will be killed by oil crashing down not going higher. When XOM takes a 10% bath, calculate the impact it will have on the DJI and you will see. Just my 2 cents.

  42. phil

    Always follow the Valero Rule – I will state right here that it is total folly to try to fight it!

    Fundamentals are meaningless here – the rule works, end of story – I am currently eyeing the XOM $75 puts, XLE $60 puts and OIH $145 puts as a big play on a turndown if the rule lets me but no other way, tempting though it may be to say that XOM should not have gained $20Bn in market cap since Monday morning…

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    MA – have to say I told you so there, value discrepancy was out of control.

    BTW all pay homage to Cramer for that COF pump!

  43. mulsannetrd

    almost impossible to make a “sane” decision on anything with the bullshit that is consistently given to us in the form of “real” #’s. That personal income # is a freakin’ joke…..I gather it’s collected by the same person who puts out the NAR #’s on inventory, or the “economist” at Freddie mac, or I could go on. Best let it go for now.

    As far as oil, specifically XOM, unless you can somehow reason that 6-8 billion in share buyback is bad for a stock (defended at any price level regardless of valuation) then you should really leave it alone as it has disconnected itself from reality as most of the market has.

    Time is on your side if you have patience…I do….this bullshit rally will correct itslef at some point (obviously monday meant nothing as we;re now not worried about those “issues” today).

    Still mostly in cash, have been since sept. when the real market checked out and went on vacation, by having this manipulated “rally” we are only putting off the inevitable crash fueled by the markets inability to really react to the slower growth, larger deficit, higher inflation, inability to use house as ATM, etc..

    Oh nevermind….the markets have not since mid-sept.

  44. phil

    Tom, I think the market was grossly undervalued then – there was a lot of great news and corporate profits were off the charts (22 year high) so there was nothing oil could do to shock the markets.

    As we are all painfully aware, it’s a “what have you done for me lately” sort of world and the comps are going to be painful next year. If go forward energy costs creep up along with wages (which can’t be stopped) and materials we could be looking at a whole lot of misses as last Q4 oil was lower than this (maybe average flat).

    Q106 averaged $63.50 and Q206 averaged $72 with Q306 around $70 so we have to start looking ahead to Q4 earnings and once we cross $62, we could be in last straw territiory for a lot of industries.

    So that’s my logic and I’d love to hear everyone else’s views on this.

    Like I said this morning, if we get back to our early month highs, the price of oil will be washed away in the market euphoria (at least until earnings) but right now, all I see is a non-sell off forcing us to retest levels we haven’t been able to build up support to break through.

  45. phil

    LOL Muls! I know it’s like we went through the looking glass and the mushrooms haven’t kicked in yet…

  46. sakiko

    just_shiv, I ended up dumping those MA Dec 110 C @ 1.60 (+.40) on a daytrade when I saw them pullback from 1.70… after seeing what happened this morning, I might go back into the 105′s if MA tests 97 today or tomorrow. Some crazies in that stock ! G/L

  47. phil

    I’m drinking the cool aide on the TXN $30s for .35, just for fun!

  48. mulsannetrd

    BTW did’nt have any better luck last week in Vegas…..

    At least I got drinks and ciggies brought to me….

    M

  49. mulsannetrd

    adding to the comment about missing in the 4th Q, who else feels that Q3 #’s were met only because fuel and comm. prices fell off a cliff over the last few weeks of Sept.? If that is/was the case then that logic (higher fuel costs hampering 4Q #’s) makes alot of sense.

    But as we’ve seen…sense is a purely relative thing…..as to say it has not been at all.

    XOM over 75…..too funny

  50. tom2oc

    Phil, well it could be. I think that people are simply addicted to oil stocks and there is a bubble being inflated now. Heck, last spring at a family reunion my brothers which are far from being big investors/traders were exchanging stock tips on oil stocks. I had never seen such behavior before for any sector. When the bubble blows up, and it will eventually on the bad fundies but might go on as long as it wants, it ain’t going to be pretty for all of those retail investors and the hedgees all overweight in oil and I’ll be ready to short this market with both hands.

  51. Soccer_F1

    XOM over $75

  52. phil

    GOOG and APPL turning down!

    Picking up QQQQ $44 puts for .50, getting out if I’m at all wrong.

    Sold the COF Jan $75s for $5.20 – let them call me away with a 25% profit!

  53. SaneObserver

    I agree with the notion that we can not withstand another jump in oil.
    The economy is kinda like electricity Volts = Potential , Amps = Strength, and Ohms = Resistance.

    The GDP is kinda like volts. I can pump 100k volts through something, but if I do not have enough amperage, it isn’t going to do much. Oil/Energy/Commodities are kinda like Ohms. If I add some resistance to the circuit I need more amperage to get through that resistance no matter how many volts I have.

    So, it is possible to have a 3% GDP ( roughly last 2 years ) that is relatively unaffected by oil/energy/commodities , if there is enough strength behind it, but take away that amperage/strength and a 5% GDP can be mouth punched by oil/energy/commodites.

    We talk about growth, but what about strength of growth. If the strength is not there, and you throw in some resistance…… well you just hit a wall.

    -SaneO

  54. Lance

    Phil – thanks for your comments on IMAX on nov. 27 (quoted below). I agree with you. I’m surprised that none of the movie companies or at least private equity has stepped up to the plate. I realize that IMAX was probably asking for way too much when they had it for sale the first time, but it seems that they might be willing to take substantially less now. They’re obviously a very motivated seller if they’re still up for sale. I think any moron could run the company better than they did this past quarter – perhaps a little overly optimistic on concluding a deal. I can’t claim to know anything about it but I would hazard a guess that their technology and patents and intellectual property alone is worth more than their current market cap. And anyone interested in acquiring them would want to do it before next year when they will definitely have blockbusters with the movies you mentioned.

    A Question for you: how does replying to comments work on this site – if i would have posted this comment back under Nov. 27th section (but posted today), would anyone see it? or is it like a tree falling in a forest and no one hearing it….? Is there any way to get an email of replies to my posted comments so i don’t have to go back and scan previous days?

    thanks
    p.s. put me on your list for your newsletter (at the pre-launch price :)

    ———————————-
    phil Says:
    November 27th, 2006 at 7:39 am
    IMAX, I own this one for exactly that reason – it’s too cheap at this price and should, one day, be attractive to someone but they have made a real mess of this company.

    They also really screwed up by thinking any crap cartoon in IMAX would get people in this year (didn’t happen) but now they finally have a hit with Happy Feet and next year they have a virtual guarantee with Harry Potter and Spider Man plus, Polar Express again this Chrismas.

    Bottom line for me is: Would I buy IMAX for $138M? Yeah, I think I could fix it and I think someone else will think so too – maybe SNE (who need something), PIXR/DIS (obvious), MGM, several movie chains, Asian companies (most of their growth is there)… Lots of possibilities for a company that was $500M just last year.

  55. phil

    Sorry about the slowness – I just found out we got listed as one of the top blogs on wordpress so we are getting crazy amounts of hits.
    Yet another reason we need to take this private!
    ================================
    Biting my tongue on XOM until I see where the pump takes us but I really don’t think they can keep $75 – too psychological…
    S&P energy index (GSPE) at all time high – does this look natural to you?

    Sorry, Yahoo charts are unpastable but use symbol ^gspe

  56. phil

    Nice analogy sane!

    =============================

    Lance, tree in a forest for sure – I usually go to the last open post and finish up comments there before I move on to the current post (now this one) but there is no tracking system that would enable me to go back and answer old questions.

    It’s always best to do what you just did, bring it up again! We talk about so many things it’s good to be reminded anyway.

    Sign-up is at: http://www.jotform.com/form/63203852512 but is closing this week.

  57. chetg

    Phil, you think MSFT really cannot get through 30?
    Dec 30s are only 0.25! big volume, big OI
    Or Jan30 for 0.70

  58. Sam

    OIH 145

  59. rockaintdeadyet

    GS, CSCO, AAPL, GOOG are a bit lackluster today, which worries me not a little. I’m not turning bearish yet, but I’m looking for short setups.

  60. Fausto

    Great tips. Please put me on your mailing list for your newletter if you go private.

  61. Sam

    Shorting the OIH here is so tempting.. or should wait?

  62. just shiv

    It is all going wrong today *cry*

    AAPL is down – staked calls on it :-(

    Got out of MA at a loss

    Against all intution got into PUTS – XOM & XLE & paying the price for it

    The gains built so painstakingly are withering away

  63. tom2oc

    Ok Cap, OIH can fall now I grabbed some Jan 135 puts when at 145 to hedge those profits from small oil co money printing machine. Was just too much profit to leave unhedged. Damn the oil crooks and down OIH!!

  64. jaredwoodard

    Lance, Fausto, anybody else,

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  65. just shiv

    I would suggest OIH calls. It is heading towards 152

  66. ThePowerOfTheDog

    Have to say I agree with the IMAX sentiment. I put on a backspread 2:1 on the JUN07′s sold a 2.50 call for every two 5.00 calls that I bought, giving me a 60c credit on each trade, giving me some nice downside protection, but if someone buys ‘em unlimited upside.

  67. phil

    MSFT – isn’t the question can Microsoft gain $6Bn in market cap between now and Dec 17th so you can get out even?

    There are 50M shares a day traded so you need about 10M more buyers than sellers ($300M) per day to move things in your direction but that has to be every day without fail otherwise you will need some days where buyers outnumber sellers 2 or 3 to one.

    MSFT’s biggest monthly move recently was $1.50 in September but October was just .39 and November has already made a .84 move so far.

    Last December Microsoft lost $1.60 but don’t let that bother you as I think they actually shipped Vista yesterday and nothing blew up yet.

    I’d go for the Januarys, a much better deal at .70 but only if the markets hold up today as Microsoft proved on Monday they are not going to fight the tide in a sell-off.

    ================================

    Oil is almost funny at this point and I am praying for a Valero signal to let me take those puts!

  68. ThePowerOfTheDog

    Phil – what are you thinking about that SNDK spread, it’s looking kind of nasty at the moment the APR07′s down to 6.30 are you thinking of a DD or cut & run?

  69. rozany

    Tom,

    if you want a good stock to day-trade, look at the Brazilian stock market ETF (EWZ). I live in Brasil and I don’t know how many times I’ve seen wild intraday swings of 2-3%. it’s usually up if the US markets are up but not always.

    Phil,

    Brasil is doing its part in shoring up the US Dollar – their Central Bank is constantly buying them.

  70. tom2oc

    thanks razany, looks interesting indeed. Will be watching to have a feel for it.

  71. phil

    How can XOM only have 12M shares at 1pm and be going up like this???

    Don’t forget just one hour until Beige book, which is like tea leaves – you can divine anything you want from it…

    ================================

    This just in – OPEC’s monopoly is broken! GEOI has hit the motherload in North Dakota and expects to being production early next year!

    http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061129/cgw030.html?.v=81

    OK, so it’s just 30 barrels a day but hey, some straw is going to break the camel’s back!
    8-)
    Yes, I’m getting punchy from this oil nonsense!

  72. tom2oc

    Got to watch BKX now which is holding the market today. If it goes in the flat zone and AAPL/GOOG remain weak could be trouble ahead. Especially if OIH can’t turn below 145.

  73. tom2oc

    meant to day if OIH turns south below 145 taking the energy sector with it too.

  74. Anonymous

    Looking at buying RTI and ATI. RTI $75calls seem to have the better value though.
    22million share float over 10% short interest.

  75. phil

    You would be crazy to follow me but I’m taking the XOM Jan $72.50 puts for .80 as I will be happy to buy more at .40.

    Remember, I got half out of oil even on last week’s dip so I’m not risking new money!

    OIH options are not a good deal and I don’t trust it enough to take a leap put

    XLE Jan $58 puts for $1.25 are good too but same thing, I’ve got this money earmarked for oil puts…

  76. tom2oc

    Phil, will be a good test for you v rule. OIH weakening but USO still in a bullish pattern so far. VLO flat. Let us know when you’ve got a sell signal. Tx

  77. Optionstrader1

    Buying RTI 75 calls, continuing momo.
    Phil what do you think about RTI and ATI? Rumor about AA buying a titanium company.

  78. kustomz

    Seems to me folks are headed for the exits in a nice slow deliberate manner as to not scare anyone. HEY TOM TXN looks like a short to 27 biting my lip as i say that. Your call on AMD was right on. Thanks for saving me the pain and your either way call on SHLD.. cant go wrong on that one!

  79. Ravs

    Phil, what do you think about PEG puts w/ the stock at $67?

  80. tom2oc

    Kustomz, you owe me a double cheeseburger then. That AMD is a real time bomb. Still amazed that support line held for so long. Next shoe is about to drop and it ain’t going to be pretty. SHLD I’m still sitting on my hands not to short that POS looking chart. Need to follow my system and wait for 167.50. It will come eventually. G/L

  81. phil

    VRule – I know I have a problem because I am once again jumping a signal – I just refuse to let go of my fundamental outlook and I deeply believe something will correct but clearly we have no confirmed signal yet.

    Of course I am just entering with very small 10% positions and I don’t mind buying my second round for a bit less but it feels right for a top here (I hit the Qs on the nose so maybe I should just stick there though!).

    The smart play (and remember the do as I say, not as I do rule) is to wait for the pump but I decided I will take a blend of this entry and the 2:30 price to establish a 20% posiiton into tomorrow’s gas numbers.

    ===============================

    Not AA, AL said they may buy something as those Canadian dollars they are valued in buys a lot of American company this month!

    The heck with ATI, check out TIE! We’ve been sitting on those June calls for two weeks and suddenly up 7% today! Gotta love the Boeing Buddies!

    I’m selling the $30s on TIE for $1.40 and they can call me away if they want to!

  82. Jon

    Phil,

    The BSX leap is down 20%, are you holding or dumping?

  83. phil

    TXN stopped me out already with a dime loss, wasn’t seeing the strength and now I can just ride my Qs down.

    ===================================

    PEG – I gave up on them last month – they are actually lagging the sector as they were held down by that buyout, not up. The price for that whole sector is out of control but what are you going to do?

  84. tom2oc

    Kustomz, you owe me a doublecheeseburger then. I was suprized to see that support line on that bearish continuation pattern last so long on AMD. The other shoe is about to drop and it ain’t going be pretty imo. But could go both ways…

    SHLD I have to sit on my hands not to short this POS looking chart. Got to follow my system and wait for 167.50 to break. Who the hell said this is going to 200? Must be that idiot WS clown, wasn’t it?

  85. tom2oc

    As expected BKX is being pulled by its partners in the flat zone. This smells like a reversal is comingl… But only thing to do to watch…

  86. tom2oc

    USO just cleared 53.80 short term support line on good volume… Interesting.

  87. mulsannetrd

    kustomz-

    or the beige book was released to the MM’s already…..

    seriously, you can get whatever you want out of that report, I’ve never understood why so much emphasis is placed on it. It IS almost a month old by the time “we” get to see it.

    Want to see AMZN below 40 and AAPL stay below 91…
    as I type there are new LOD’s hitting. Holding short from yesterday, right at about this level.

  88. phil

    BSX, we don’t buy leaps to dump on a wiggle…. Not down enough to take another round either. JNJ is down too, it’s a sector thing.

    Conventional wisdom is that the aquistion is killing them. Any signs that they are dying will be met with “so tell me something I didn’t know.”

    Anything that looks like a pulse could fly this stock but with just 2% of the stock shorted, you won’t get a squeeze.

    Low was $14.43 and, between now and June we may see it again but the 50 dma is down at $15.70 and that’s a better test.

    I have to elaborate on this in trading policies but buying a leap is like buying a stock, you need to be willing to ride it down and add more or you are just playing a game of guessing turns and, if you could hit that 100% of the time, you’d be too rich to waste time reading this!

  89. mulsannetrd

    on the Q’s that is….^^^

  90. John, the Other One

    XOM’s banged its head up against its upper bollinger band. That may be all she wrote for this nonsense. It’s not been known to stay up there long.

  91. phil

    SOX way off, down 1% – Q puts looking good!

    SHLD – I totally love them and I’m not buying up here…

    This, by the way, is a clear VRule signal but let’s watch out for a bounce!

  92. Sam

    what happened to the NYX
    is it worth buying it call here?

  93. rozany

    Tom,

    EWZ – keep in mind that it has a good chunk of its weight in commodities, obviously. PBR, RIO, SID, etc.

    and they don’t mess around either. for example, if the US market is up (or down) 0.5%, the Brazilian market could be up (or down) 1-1.5%.

  94. kustomz

    TOM no problem on the CB..i remember when i used to send American dollars to my relatives in Europe now they send them back!! and send me their Euros to help this poor American boy. I have a feeling the selling we saw earlier this week is a drop in the bucket. The call on SHLD i forget the guys name but this markets going down and everyone’s looking for reasons why! That’s when you get caught looking the other way. Can i get an AMEN

  95. tom2oc

    USO completely negated the 12:20 strong breakout. Remorse buying selling is about to get under way. Looking good on the put side! :)

    Kustomz: Amen!

  96. phil

    NYX – I got off all those exchanges after last week’s crazy run.

    Will be interesting to see if it can hold $95, where it had a very hard time breaking over for about 10 days.

    ==================================

    Spoke too soon on those Qs, got stopped out at .70 but I’ll buy them again for .50!

    ===================================

    Amen!

  97. Sam

    3 british airways grounded in search for poison

  98. Clare

    Phil,

    I’m in the TXN 30′s at 0.30. I think you were a bit too trigger happy. They’ve got pretty strong support at 29, a nice place to kiss if you’re Tom. Let me know if I’m way out of line here.

  99. phil

    Here comes the beige book!

    3 British Jets have been grounded due to radiation on board – this is about the Russian poisoning thing but look for a wrong reaction by some.

    BBook:

    Moderate wage growth continues (wage induced inflation)

    Workers hard to find

    Holiday spending cautiously optimistic

    Soft housing

    Consumer spending up

    This means no way on a rate cut, let’s keep an eye on the dollar/oil/gold – this will hurt COF who was counting on a cut…

  100. 1st ztr addict

    Anyone still hanging on to the MOT calls?

  101. Sam

    Thanks Phil – NYX- JP Morgan sees it overvalued at 101.

  102. phil

    TXN – has every reason in the world to do better – I’m kind of hoping it goes down more so I can just take a sensible leap and let the earnings tell the tale…

  103. phil

    MOT – yes I am that crazy!

  104. 1st ztr addict

    I just didnt want to be the only one!

  105. phil

    Let’s not forget that is just the 5% rule for oil kicking in ($60.25) so stopping just below it remains a very bullish spot for oil.

    ================================

    CAL took a huge hit and is recovering fast off that news.

  106. rozany

    jaredwoodward,

    favorite 70s band? The Doobie Brothers (or Led Zeppelin).

  107. phil

    Wow, mega pump in progress on oil! Gapping up by the minute just after a nice breakdown.

    These guys know how to play the game all right – going to try to close on the 5% line and set up for all sorts of technical buys tomorrow. On the other hand, if I were a seller who thought the 5% rule was a good place to get out – I’d be sticking it to the pumpers in about 5 minutes so let’s see which way this blows (XOM seems to think it’ll break up).

  108. Soccer_F1

    How much higher can crude and natgas go with current inventory levels?

  109. phil

    The Who, but how sad is that that it was almost 40 years ago!

  110. arnie

    Nightmare all over again
    And I swore to myself I would not touch oil
    Bought some XOM Dec 75 put and boooyaaa XOM takes off
    Zman please buy calls again -it worked wonders last time!!!!

  111. phil

    Soccer, you can have so much oil it will be flooding the streets and T Boone will tell you should be hoarding every last drop because tomorrow it will all be gone!

    It reminds me of the Cat in the Hat where they start out with a spot (of excess inventory) and everything they do makes it worse until it gets so big it covers everything and T is like the Cat who keeps assuring you it will all go away with the next thing he tries.

  112. kustomz

    Seems with new PT set for AAPL that they are no longer priced for perfection at current levels. Any signs of this market heading back to 12300 the wisest choice here is AAPL. TXN has been scary to watch of late. SNDK Phil i must say you are a wise man and i am impressed with your call to wait for this drop. Will you be taking any action? Kudos to you. Mot much more resilient than i thought held up well when NOK dropped the bomb i believe it was Monday F finally starting to act like a company that’s in deep you know what. Again i think with all the positive sentiment coming out on AAPL how can you go wrong?

  113. Jacox Boy

    AAPL looks to be heading towards its uptrend line from 11:15 at 90.1.
    Any TA thoughts?
    JB

  114. Jon

    Behind the curve?

    Analyst raises ANGO target price to $21

    Stock was at $22.20, now $21.50

    http://www.newratings.com/analyst_news/article.asp?aid=1433069

  115. phil

    That’s why I took the Jans, I think December may be toast but I would say don’t go by what’s happening until after the pump is done – it could be considered a fizzle if they don’t break $62.25 (but what a sick number!).

    Still gapping oil up! I am calling on someone to please stick it to these guys right… now!

  116. mulsannetrd

    both USO and XOM….HOD…..just before the close…how do they get away with it???

  117. cap

    Let me state the obvious…. today’s oil pump has nothing to do with that pathetic inventory report.

    Could be technical factors; could be month end window dressing.

    Love that 50 cent oil pump last 15 minutes, eh ?

    Tom; bot some of those OIH Jan puts.

  118. mulsannetrd

    check out AMZN for text book example of pump……Mr. Miller was that you at 40.10???

    just drop it below 40 already…..

    M

  119. phil

    Wow, here comes my hero at $62.45 – thanks for very, very little buddy!

    There’s nothing you can do here, they are buying everything that is being sold, determined to print $62.50 at the close (and they will get it by slapping trades on the bell)

    I should have grabbed those DIA puts again!

    ================================

    AAPL – setting up for a letdown on the phone unless it is the voice of God in a box

    ===============================

    ANGO – seems like there’s something going on there we don’t know about…

  120. MJ

    AAPL doesn’t seem to clear 93 even after the hype about iPhone. AAPL crossing 100 before the Dec expiration looks less likely now. Thoughts?
    Man, those AAPL options are always expensive.

  121. rozany

    jaredwoodward,

    favorite 70s band? I wouldnt’t think most of you guys would be old enough to remember (or to have been around in) the 70s.

  122. SaneObserver

    It is funny how the American public is told we are addicted to oil. Dependent yes, addicted no. I have no other option to fuel my car on. If there was another option, I would be the first in line. It seems to me that these 2:20 Pumpers are the ones addicted. They act like crack addicts at a free crack giveaway. Just my opinion :P

    -SaneO

  123. zmann

    FRO still headed lower off yesterdays miss and today’s downgrades. VLCC tanker rates continue to ease meaning FRO, TK, OMM, GMR and company should get weaker. They also get hit if people start to see Opec action or at least believe in it. TK just causght a sell at Cantor and got waxed. Just a thougt while I’m drowning in other oil puts.

  124. tom2oc

    Phil, Holy cow! USO gained 0.60 in about 20 minutes before the close. First time in oil puts since a long time and solely to hedge long oil profit but still I can see how playing these puts can be frustrating to you with the oil crooks wanting/needing to keep it up. OIH back went back to where I got those puts and I got the hell out breakeven. I will probably close the long oil play by EOD and take the money and run and leave the oil sector alone for a good while. Way too manipulated for me. Heck, this dun follow TA rules and your V-rule test failed too. Why be in this then if it’s no for gambling? I’ll stick to everything except oil much easier to trade on TA. G/L!

  125. Jon

    Any opinions on SNDA? Other than the JPM upgrade any reason for it to be up 9%?

  126. SaneObserver

    tom,

    It hasen’t made sense for a while now. No TA or FA can explain. Just a lot of funny money.

    -SaneO

  127. i2trade

    You are right Tom. So much manipulation, feel like a small fish amongst whales.

    First & last oil play for me. Phil, where do u consider to bail out or let it expire worthless?

  128. Soccer_F1

    XOM @ $75.80 – incredible

  129. 1st ztr addict

    Cramers take:

    If you are like me, you are sitting around wondering what the heck happened to all of the sellers of the Oil Service HOLDRs (OIH – commentary – Cramer’s Take) even though oil is lower — much lower — than when they were selling the heck out of it. Where did they go?

    It’s very hard to understand this stuff, but you know from the get-go I thought this index was being manipulated down and the holders of the oil service stocks were all traders who didn’t have any staying power.

    Not this time. This is a mutual fund move, with the big funds not being able to be shaken out by hedge fund raids. The hedgies have tried to raid them, but they have failed badly.

    This time it is for real even though oil is lower. My take: Maybe this is where they should have been all along if the bears hadn’t pounded them so badly.

  130. i2trade

    I will buy XOM when their plants blast off. Look at that massive buying going on.

  131. Soccer_F1

    -SaneO, buy a Prius or a car/SUV that runs on E85.

  132. mulsannetrd

    XOM might even print a 76 today…only .12 away from it now…

    too much crap…stay away from XOM on the short side. Have you guys not lost enough trying to call the top at this point? realistically it topped out already but factor in the buyback and look what we have…

  133. D

    XOM – All I can say is damn!

  134. Soccer_F1

    XOM over $76

  135. mulsannetrd

    boy that took all of three minutes to get up and over 76…..

    Good night all…the lawn needs to be mowed.

    M

  136. D

    Phil, I think the roaches have built a new wing on to the hotel.

  137. Soccer_F1

    Jan. crude ends at $62.46/brl, up $1.47, or 2.4%

    Jan. natural gas up 3.7% to close at $8.871/mln BTUs

  138. phil

    I’m sticking to my guns and adding on here (if it ever actually stops going up) for XOM and XLE, maybe the gas inventory will save us or maybe oil will go to $70 a barrel and the market will just keep moving up because the price of oil has nothing to do with the health of the US economy anymore.

    XOM added $8Bn in market cap today, now $440Bn, up 25% from where it was in July when oil was $79.

    There has not been a losing options play (taking a call at the close of one period to the next) since August so this will make 3 months in a row that a .60 $2.50 out of the money call will more than triple.

    All you had to do in September was take buy $1,300 worth of Oct XOM $65 calls for $1.30 (XOM $64.11) and they closed at $4,500 ($69.45), then you roll that into the Nov $70s for $1.60 which close at $9,000 (73.08) and then flip to the Dec $75s for .35 which are now worth $2 for a whopping $51,000!

    See how easy it is to make money – this kind of stuff just happens all the time…

    They don’t even have Jan $77.50s to flip into because the people who write option contracts never imagined the stock would go high enough to make it neccessary!

    Why are my Jan $72.50 puts still worth .70? The XLE J $58 puts are down to $1.15 but I feel like I should have been punished more for being wrong…

  139. SaneObserver

    soccer,

    Yeah there are options, I was just making a generalization. For the most part, hybrid and E85 vehicles are still in limited supply. I personally am turned off from E85 at the moment d/t most of the cars that can use E85 are large gas guzzlers. If/when they would make smaller cars E85 capable, then I would really look into it. The wife and I actually are looking into a Prius. I wish Toyota would make a hybrid version of my RAV4.

    -SaneO

  140. rozany

    Phil,

    Q puts getting stopped out: that’s what happens when the market gets a pump from the Fed/Treasury. it’s what’s been going on for the past several months. keep the market elevated so the foreigners don’t pull their money out.

  141. Soccer_F1

    XOM @ $76.29

  142. D

    Someone thinks highly of their XOM Dec 72.5 puts, they ain’t budging from .75

  143. phil

    SNDA – huge growth, JPM gives it a stamp of approval.

    Danger stock as China could outlaw them and you’d only know it when you wake up broke (probably won’t happen).

    ==================================

    Hey I used to have a Rav 4, loved it!

    ===================================

    Muls – actually, on the whole, my DD strategy saved me from losing much on oil – I got back to even and took half off the table, which is now down almost 50% again so I can DD again and still have 25% of my oil budget free.

    The trick is to pull the money back as soon as you get even, not to try to make money on more than you intended to invest.

    Following my entry points of 10% 5% (same # options, less money) then 10% (dd same number of options at lower price) and another 10% max – I have to hit an uninterrupted run in the stock of about 15% to get wiped out of a 40% entry position.

    So far, I haven’t been that unlucky but XOM looks like it will be pushing it.

    I haven’t done more yet, maybe it will hit $80 so I’m going to wait until the end of day or for a real turn.

  144. BillBigD

    Phil,
    Great stat on xom, we need to find another HA HA. Your thoughts on ICE?
    Time to get back in?

  145. phil

    You mean Jan XOMs…

    That’s me because I have a .50 bid on it and no one will give it to me!

    I keep teasing them by going to .65, then cancelling and dropping to .60…

  146. D

    Yes, Jan – I filled at .70. Tried @ .65, but no takers.

  147. phil

    Well, if that’s all they got I’ll buy some more here…

    Also taking some XOM $75 puts for .65, let’s see them take it to $77 tomorrow so I can DD on my longer plays!

  148. Soccer_F1

    72.50s are far out of money now — almost $4 — why not got for the 75s? or even 80s at this point?

  149. phil

    HD flying on takeover rumor $37.50s for momo!

  150. phil

    HD flying on takeover rumor $37.50s for .70 momo!

  151. phil

    Who dared to short Apple?

    Cramer really got that one going again. That is way too much power for one man to have!

  152. Soccer_F1

    S&P might close above 1,400

    XOM — huge, huge day. I would jump in and buy some puts, however, my fear is that TA guys will buy tomorrow based on today’s increase.

  153. phil

    Hmm, time to consider the Q puts again! Not sure if I want to with this finish though…

  154. i2trade

    Phil, Is this huge pump on oil just for the inventories for t’row? Some are making huge bets that it would go their way.

  155. phil

    I’ve got to tell you, I am very good at putting myself in the other guy’s shoes but I just cannot figure out the expectations of a guy paying $76 for XOM.

    Oil was at $79 and this stock was nowhere near there.

    The company already told us they will do worse next year than this year.

    The Democrats are coming and the next congressional hearing won’t be a cakewalk.

    Putin and many other countries are putting the screws to them.

    There are close to 1,000 new wildcat operations coming on-line to compete with them at these prices (you may be a giant but you can still die from a thousand cuts)

    They haven’t spent a dime to find oil in 5 years which means they’re eating into their reserves so they will have to write them down or overpay for someone who has some (as if the Dems will let them get bigger).

    Like I said yesterday, I like BTU and SU, both well off their highs but XOM is a dinosaur and is not going to give you that kind of growth without massive run-ups in oil prices.

  156. Sam

    Phil – if they give you a show that repeats 3 times a day and a show up in the middle of the day on cnbc and a radio time, you’ll be moving the market too :)

  157. phil

    Well that was fun! I’ve got to go – catch you all later!

  158. tom2oc

    Phil, you see 62 oil didn’t kill the market. In fact energy is such a big of the market now that oil is the market. If it wasn’t that energy helped BKX support the market I’m not sure we would have had that kind of closing with GOOG and AAPL on the weak side. This high volatilty in these two in recent days might be hinting that they’re going through a topping process. I’m not sure I like what I see today. Anyway, glad I let the good times roll though today with calls on fire like RRC and X.

  159. reinharden

    CNBC – Gotta hate sloppy reporting. It wasn’t a report that Zune had 8% marketshare. It was a report that only 8% of retail clerks were recommending the Zune when asked which digital audio player to buy.

    Argh.

    reinharden

  160. Sam

    Tom – did you keep those OIH put?

  161. cap

    ugh. that’s all I can say.

  162. vertigoreality

    Phil, my layman opinion: The reason people keep buying XOM is because it keeps defying gravity and it continues to go up. It doesnt seem to be very volatile and I think for a lot of non-professional investors its a solid rock in a constantly shifting environment. I always hear people say “Stick with Oil man. You cant go wrong. If there’s anythign we need its oil. Cant live without it etc…” So who do they turn to? XOM. The biggest and perceived as the safest. We keep talking bad about oil and XOM but it never goes down.

  163. tom2oc

    Sam, no they were just an hedge for my RRC calls and I got rid of them at breakeven when OIH reversed and turned back up where I got them. I posted it above. Will let ride the profit on those calls and will use 62 oil as a tight stop. So many people wants to get back into the energy sector that we’ve got a bubble process going on now. Not planning to short oil until that bubble bursts and that could take as long as it wants.

  164. arnie

    XOM just like GS will break down -question of time
    My lesson after losing much $$ is to follow Phil’s DD strategy
    It works to break even or win a bit till that big day happens
    Amen

  165. vertigoreality

    Hi can someone please explain DD to me? Does it mean DoubleDown? Selling and moving options to the following month?

  166. Mike_C

    Hi Phil,

    After reading this publication, I’m feeling pretty worried about our buck.
    Again, it’s just a matter of time and how long can we sustain?
    Lowering the interest rate would be suicidal.
    I hold some Chinese stocks for diversification, but if our US$ goes down, so will their stocks.
    If you were the PM of China, would you do?
    Here is the publication:
    http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/dorsch/2006/1129.html

  167. arnie

    Verti
    DD yes is double down and Phil a couple paragraphs above explained it

  168. Sam

    Thanks Tom, got the 145 puts on OIH and kept them.

  169. reinharden

    Okay, I’d like to extend and revise my earlier CNBC and AAPL comment.

    CNBC meant to reference a report from the NPD Group saying that the Zune had achieved 9% market share for its first week of release.

    Still sloppy (since they used the 8% number from the other report). And 9% for the week of introduction is somewhat less impressive than 8% overall marketshare as CNBC seemed to be saying.

    But I’ll have to forgive them some for their seeming error.

    As earlier predicted by many, SanDisk dropped from #2 to #3 with Microsoft’s ascension.

    reinharden

  170. Ray

    I thoroughly enjoy reading the comments between all you. I hope to be able to contribute to the discussion one day (As of now I’m just a bad trader at a 9-5 job losing money as we speak), but I’m learning alot just from listening to you people who are much smarter than me explain your thought process.

    Double cheeseburgers to any of you I see :)
    ~Ray

  171. Stu

    Phil, would you buy Sigmatel (SGTL) on the same basis that you bought IMAX, IE its worth $140 million versus $750 million less than a year ago, extremely easy takeover target ($95 million in cash, no debt), trading at (ex cash) .25 sales … similar to PLAY

  172. Paul J

    there goes the cramer pump on xom

  173. Cap

    “Stick with Food man. You cant go wrong. If there’s anything we need its Food.” So buy Food stocks. Can’t eat oil. Plus, there is so much oil, you can’t even store oil.

    So, if based on one wild almost month end day, oil stocks are now back in favor, what happens to the argument that “profit taking” in the oil sector is being rotated to tech ??

    If money is going back into oil (didn’t see it volume wise), then ipso facto tech is going to go down, because the money is rotating back, yes ?

    Or is it time for another silly rationale ?

    Just being provocative folks.

    Don’t believe the hype they be telling ya on TV.

  174. cap

    I wonder if this kept the oil pump going today ?

    “British Airways says small traces of radiation have been found on two of its aircraft by investigators looking into the death of a former Russian spy, wire services report.”

    I doubt it, as the market didn’t sell off any, but who knows ?

  175. cap

    I wonder if this kept the oil pump going today ? It his around 2:15 pm.

    “British Airways says small traces of radiation have been found on two of its aircraft by investigators looking into the death of a former Russian spy, wire services report.”

    I doubt it, as the market didn’t sell off any, but who knows ?

  176. Cap

    Perhaps this gave the oil market the jitters:

    Ahmadinejad’s Second Warning

    Kenneth Timmerman on the real message of Ahmadinejad’s latest missive to America: Iran’s Ahmadinejad: America’s New Pen Pal. (Hat tip: Newsbeat1.)

    Media commentators in the U.S. are likely to pick up on the “public relations” side of the letter. Ahmadinejad calls on the U.S. to bring the troops home from Iraq, to cut off support for Israel, and to stop “kidnapping presumed opponents from across the globe” and holding them in secret prisons.

    He even has some advice for the new Democrat majority in Congress: Bend to the Muslim agenda, or you will be tossed out of power.

    Ahmadinejad repeatedly tries to appeal to Americans as people of faith, who share Islamic values. “We, like you, are aggrieved by the ever-worsening pain and misery of the Palestinian people,” he drones. “Persistent aggressions by the Zionists are making life more and more difficult for the rightful owners of the land of Palestine.”

    And he trots out his old anti-Semitic saw, claiming that “the Zionists” control America “because they have imposed themselves on a substantial portion of the banking, financial, cultural, and media sectors.”

    But to focus on these parts of his letter, however silly and objectionable they may be, would be to miss the main point. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not the Hugo Chavez of the Persian Gulf. He knows that soon he will have his finger on the nuclear trigger.

    Citing from the Quran at the close of his letter, he says that if Americans “repent” of their “injustice,” they will be blessed with many gifts. “We should all heed the divine Word of the Holy Qur’an,” he says.

    The context of this particular verse (28:67-28, Sura “Al-Qasas,” or The Narration), is very clear. It follows a graphic description of destruction and devastation that will befall those who fail to repent of their injustice.

    It also sets out the terms of the tradition Muslim warning to the enemies of Allah. “And never will your Lord destroy the towns until He sends to their mother town a Messenger reciting to them Our Verses.” This is is precisely what Ahmadinejad is doing in his letter.

    Dump Bush, allow the Muslims to destroy Israel, and adopt Islam — or else you will be destroyed. This is Ahmadinejad’s message.

    —————————————
    This Iranian is a real dangerous nut. I hope that Bush has the courage to take him and his regime out and not listen to the appeasers that think we can get together and sing Kumbaya with him and all will be well.

    Iran is the leading state sponsor of terrorism in the world and is behind much of the instability in Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon and other places, along with its proxies Syria and Hezbollah.

  177. D

    Phil, when, and how will we be hearing details concerning the private site?

  178. Helder

    Cap you in the Military? Any family in the Military? i sure hope so if your pumping another war. you know people who start fights for other people to finish in real life are considered big pussies.
    While i’m taking some pot shots OptionsTraders stop recomending every stock that runs. what happneed to your Rimm. ICE, Goog, GS picks from this weekend?

  179. Optionstrader1

    I’ve been shorting them. Go with the flow.
    Looking for oil plays and a bounce in the momomentum stocks.
    Market reversal is what happened. We’ll see in a couple days. Things change in a second you don’t need me to hold your hand every second do you?

  180. kustomz

    I am a newbie to this board but i would like to say …I hate politics, talking about politics wont help anyone here make a dime. Its every where.. If there is news off the wires that one would like to share thinking it will have an effect on markets then by all means post away. It will keep us from judging one another and thinking we know all about the poster just from reading a few lines of text which will ultimately lead to insults. Having constructive dialog about the markets this as Borat would say I LIKE but politics NOT SO MUCH. Thank you for your cooperation.

    Hey Mike that was a great read on the dollar, i for one hope and pray for a hike in rates until it settles to a nice round number like say 10. Ahh the good old days.

  181. Scooter

    What are your takes on SBUX. I was hoping for a bounce back, but its still trending down, now trading at 35.36. Do you feel its a buy at this price, or might it go lower?

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