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Sam Harris: The Threat of Civil War A Conversation with Stephen Marche

The Threat of Civil War

A Conversation with Stephen Marche

Sam Harris talks with writer Stephen Marche about the ideas behind his book The Next Civil War. They explore what a modern American civil conflict looks like, the forces driving polarization, rising extremism, political violence, conspiracy thinking, and whether secession or renewed unity is more likely. They also touch on U.S.–Canada tensions, diversity and immigration, and how the country might still avoid a breakdown.

Marche is a novelist and essayist whose work has appeared in outlets including The New Yorker, The New York Times, The Atlantic, and Esquire. He’s also the author of The Next Civil War and co-author of The Last Election.

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