The Global World Order Is Collapsing- And It’s Much Bigger Than Trump!
Tom Bilyeu speaks with Peter Zeihan on Geopolitics
Tom Bilyeu sits down with Peter Zeihan for a wide-ranging conversation about the breakdown of the post-World War II global order. They dig into why today’s political and economic turmoil isn’t just about personalities, but the result of long-building forces in trade, security, and demographics. Zeihan explains what deglobalization could mean for the U.S., China, and the broader world, and why aging populations and shifting supply chains may reshape capitalism itself.
Timeline
0:00 – “We Were Always Going to End Up Here” (Trade & Demographics)
2:00 – Post-WWII World Order & U.S. Security Architecture
5:00 – Why the System Began Breaking After the Cold War
8:30 – Demographic Collapse & End of the Growth Model
11:00 – The Future of Capitalism & New Economic Models
15:00 – Black Plague Comparison & Labor Shifts
17:30 – Global Specialization vs. Deglobalization
20:40 – NAFTA, Mini-Globalization & Missed U.S. Strategy
24:00 – Trump’s Approach to Trade & Industrial Policy
33:00 – Is Trump Strategic or Chaotic?
35:30 – China Strategy & U.S. Leverage
47:45 – Thucydides Trap & Why China Won’t Replace the U.S.
52:30 – What Chinese Collapse Could Look Like
59:30 – Preparing for a Post-China World
1:05:00 – U.S. Demographics, Labor, Inflation & Political Realignment
1:12:00 – Social Media, Truth & Information Disorder
1:16:00 – Immigration, Assimilation & Cultural Identity
1:30:00 – Japan, Robotics & AI vs. Aging
1:32:00 – AI, LLMs & Tech Limits in a Shrinking World
