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YIELD CURVE SAYS: SLOW GROWTH, BUT NO RECESSION

YIELD CURVE SAYS: SLOW GROWTH, BUT NO RECESSION

Courtesy of The Pragmatic Capitalist 

Much has been made about the recent action in the bond market.  Yields have fallen to unheard of levels.  The inflationistas and curve steepener traders are bewildered.  It’s clear that bond investors are expecting very low inflation in the coming decade, but some fear it is portending far worse.  Famed bond guru Bill Gross is worried about the action in the bond markets – so much so that he says the current environment is pricing in a depression.   The Cleveland Fed recently released a note on the predictive nature of the yield curve.  Their conclusions – a slowdown is on the horizon, but no double dip will follow:

“Since last month, the three-month rate has dropped to 0.09 percent (for the week ending June 18) from May’s 0.17, and this also comes in below April’s 0.16 percent. The ten-year rate dropped to 3.26 percent from May’s 3.33 percent, also down from April’s 3.85 percent. The slope increased a mere 1 basis point to 317 basis points, up from May’s 316 basis points, but still below April’s 369 basis points.”

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“Projecting forward using past values of the spread and GDP growth suggests that real GDP will grow at about a 1.00 percent rate over the next year, just up from May’s prediction of 0.98 percent. Although the time horizons do not match exactly, this comes in on the more pessimistic side of other forecasts, although, like them, it does show moderate growth for the year.”

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“the expected chance of the economy being in a recession next June rises to 12.4 percent, up from May’s 9.9 percent and April’s 7.1 percent, despite the slight rise in the spread. Recent data has shifted the predicted value upward, though it still remains low.”

fed3 YIELD CURVE SAYS: SLOW GROWTH, BUT NO RECESSION

So, very slow growth, but no double dip.  Of course, this is all assuming the recession actually ended which I think is absolute nonsense.  This is and remains a consumer driven balance sheet recession.   The reason policymakers have failed to solve the problems on Main Street is because they have failed to properly diagnose this as a problem rooted on Main Street.

As for the predictive nature of the yield – I think we have to seriously wonder if this time isn’t different.  Monetary policy has proven to…
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BONDS SAY DEFLATION, STOCKS SAY REFLATION. WHO IS RIGHT?

BONDS SAY DEFLATION, STOCKS SAY REFLATION. WHO IS RIGHT?

inflation, deflationCourtesy of The Pragmatic Capitalist

Stocks have surged 11% since June 10th.  At the same time, the 10 year treasury yield has declined almost 70 basis points to close at 3.18% yesterday.   What is curious here is that the stock market is telling a very different story from the bond market.  Bond investors (who tend to have a longer time horizon) are forecasting a long battle with deflation.  Equity investors (who tend not to think much farther than one quarter into the future), on the other hand, are putting their money on the line in the hopes that the reflation trade is alive and well.

Unfortunately for equity investors, they have a poor record of forecasting the future when compared to bond investors.   There have been 4 famous cases of such bond and stock divergences in the last 20 years.  The most famous is the summer of 1987.  We all know what occurred then.  The other three cases were fall ‘94, summer ‘98 and winter 2000.   All three preceded declines in the market.  Of all 4 instances, three of them preceded 15% declines in the S&P 500.

The real crux of the issue here is not terribly complex.  In order for corporations to tack on to the $80 in operating earnings that the equity market is currently pricing in for 2010, they will need pricing power.  The cost cutting and resulting margin expansion we are seeing is great in the near-term, but we’re unlikely to see pricing power and hence real revenue expansion without at least some inflation.  The bond market, however, is pricing in little to no inflation.  The bond market’s message is clear – we are in a deflationary world.  That doesn’t bode well for the prospect of corporate earnings and that likely means stocks are getting a bit frothy here.  Investors would be wise to take a step back and reconsider the risk/reward of owning equities once the euphoria surrounding Q3 earnings wears off….

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By Wolf Richter via WolfStreet.com, as published at Zero Hedge

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The Big Pharma Takeover of Medical Cannabis

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Bearish Divergences Similar To 2000 & 2007 In Play Again!

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Does history at important junctures ever repeat itself exactly? Nope

Do look-alike patterns take place at important price points? Yup

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The Primary Dealers. Who are the Primary Dealers?  I’ll let the New York Fed tell you:

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