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The Oxen Report: Closing Positions, Long Term Investment in Pay Distribution Company

As I mentioned yesterday, I am out of settled funds and have three open positions. So, we are going to enter one new position that isn’t good for an exit till next week to cover that issue. As for the three positions, first off we have our Play of the Week in Advanced Micro Devices (AMD). We got involved at 7.48 and sold half at 7.78. Last night, AMD reported very solid earnings with an EPS of 0.11 vs. the expected 0.06. The company also had record revenue. Yet, the stock is down in pre-market slightly. I am selling out of the gate. We are in bad shape with Bank of America (BAC). We got involved yesterday at 15.56. We are going to take a large loss. Despite beating earnings 0.27 vs. 0.22 and recording great profits, investors are not happy. Finally, I am going to close the position on Marriott this morning as well for a slight loss.

This is one of the worst days for me ever as far as investing goes. We will try to salvage this with a new position and a Long Term Investment. AMD is the discerning one. They had recored revenues. They beat earnings when we remove one-time charges, and they have great outlook. 

Good luck to you guys…

 

Long Term Investment: Paychex Inc. (PAYX) 

Paychex Inc. (PAYX) is involved in the outsourcing of payrolls. The company focuses on outsourcing payroll for small to medium-sized businesses that have around fifth to 100 employees. The company was founded in 1971 in Rochester, New York, and it was grown in 1979 by consolidation 17 payroll processors. The company services over 550,000 clients. The company is the second largest payroll outsourcing firm behind Automatic Data Processing Inc. (ADP).
 
Thesis
 
Paychex is a leader in a fairly uncompetitive industry with a wide economic moat that is created by the company’s significant competitve advantage and top notch brand image. The cost of switching payroll processors and high scalability gives the firm a significant advantage of any firm entering the industry. Further, the company has the respect of thirty years of business that have allowed it to grow and keep customers. Small businesses also are less likely to take on new businesses since margins are smaller on small businesses and do not wish to take on new costs.
 
Paychex also has a really low cost of doing business once it is established. The ability to easily add new companies onto already established business has allowed Paychex to grow to the multi-billion dollar corporation it is today. The company has suffered during the recession since it is in an outsourcing intensive industry that has seen small to medium businesses take a significant brunt of the recessionary troubles. Yet, this slowdown has taken share prices down significantly. As employment and the economy start to revcover, Paychex will take on new business and continue to increase revenue capabilities. The company reported in its latest quarter that they did not expect to increase its revenue any more this year, but those results are figured into the price now.
 
As employment rises, Paychex will continue to see its business grow. Employment has shown slow but steady inclines, and employment will come back. The latest figures have shown only slight improvement. Unemployment continues to decline. Unemployment claims continue to be on the decline. On July 14, the market saw the continuation of a slow but steady decline in unemployment claims. For the week prior, there were 429,000 jobless claims. The year prior there were 538,000. Unemployment insurance dropped 1.5 million people in the past year. It is slow, but the recovery is there.
 
Additionally, the company recently reinstated its salary increases and will be raising its sales force by 2% next year. This is a great sign for the company. As they see bankruptcies declining and small businesses continuing to hire back, Paychex will continue to gain its foothold. In its latest quarter, the company also saw its check per client increase 1.1%. It was the first increase since Q3 of FY 2007. Finally, the company recently was able to increase its costs by 3% in May.
 
One of the most important aspects of Paychex is that the company has significant amounts of free cash flow at its hands. In the past five years, the company has increased its free cash flow from $397 to $642 million. That free cash flow is extremely important for any company. A company like PAYX can use it for acquisitions, entering new markets, and continuing to grow its business.
 
Finally, Paychex is a company that makes a great deal of money by sitting on money. When money is in float, the company is able to make a great deal of interest. With fed rates and interest rates so low, the float is not able to make much interest. This can not go on forever. At some point, the Fed will raise rates and interest rates will increase. It is only a matter of time till this float begins to increase. The company makes about 10% of its income off floating money. This float also allows the company to battle inflation.
 
If you believe that employment will come back, and it should. Then, Paychex is a great bet. Additionally, the company has a significant yield at almost 5%. A high yield is great for a long term investment.
 
The company, however, does face some issues. They recently lost their CEO Jonathan Judge, who has been with the company for the past six years. While the company is saying that the leave is because Judge is moving on to new ventures, it is suspicious, however. Judge’s leave will be very difficult, but the company has stalled as of recent. A new face may be good, but it may not be good.
 

Valuation

My fair value estimate for Paychex is $40.30 per share based on discounted cash-flow analysis. The company has seen a dip in its ability to grow its revenue as of late. They have not seen the double-digit revenue growth they used to see in several years. For my DCF, therefore, I reduced the annual growth on operating income to low levels of 2-3%. Therefore, the estimate is a very low valuation of future growth, which could be much higher. The company can definitely maintain a 2-3% operating income growth given such levels of free cash flow. With little competition and a high economic moat, the company does not face stiff competition and should maintain their current status.

Risk

Risk is low with Paychex. The company will maintain very well, but they do face the issue of a slow but sustained growth for the time being. They will continue to do well as long as a recovery is sustained. In the long term, Paychex represents an opportunity for a very sustainable and safe company moving forward.

 

Good Investing,

David Ristau

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  1. David Ristau

    Oxen Alert – Advice on Closing Positions

    As I mentioned yesterday, I am out of settled funds and have three open positions. So, we are going to enter one new position that isn’t good for an exit till next week to cover that issue. As for the three positions, first off we have our Play of the Week in Advanced Micro Devices (AMD). We got involved at 7.48 and sold half at 7.78. Last night, AMD reported very solid earnings with an EPS of 0.11 vs. the expected 0.06. The company also had record revenue. Yet, the stock is down in pre-market slightly. I am selling out of the gate. We are in bad shape with Bank of America (BAC). We got involved yesterday at 15.56. We are going to take a large loss. Despite beating earnings 0.27 vs. 0.22 and recording great profits, investors are not happy. Finally, I am going to close the position on Marriott this morning as well for a slight loss.

  2. David Ristau

    I am going to take MAR and BAC off right away. I will wait a few minutes on AMD…it might right the ship…might.

  3. David Ristau

    I am out BAC at 14.62.

  4. millstone99

    I’m going to wait on AMD as well. But it seems like no one wants to give this company a break.

  5. David Ristau

    MAR and AMD are rising…let’s hold.

  6. millstone99

    Thankfully, I sold out of BAC yesterday after it ran up. Didn’t want to hold a bank overnight b/c of the SEC announcement coming up. Just in case…

  7. nicha

    David- I think you were right on all the above. Just that investors are skittish and also this being options expirations week. I am thinking of holding on to BAC as I bought options on those. You don’t think waiting till the eod wud help with the others?

  8. David Ristau

    Millstone -

    Yeah…they are not Intel…they never have been. Err!

  9. David Ristau

    I’m out of MAR at 31.58

  10. David Ristau

    I’m out of AMD at 7.23

  11. millstone99

    still holding…

  12. David Ristau

    Nicha -

    Go ahead and hold. I have no problem with it. I am getting out because I need to get my portfolio in a position where I can continue to make new trades next week. I need settled funds.

  13. chip

    Damn, guy I am short HOT and its coming in well.

  14. David Ristau

    Chip -

    HOT? You mean HOV?

  15. David Ristau

    Oxen Alert – Position Update

    AMD – We exited the second half at 7.23 this morning for a 3.34% loss. In all, we gained just under 1% with AMD…what a waste. I apologize for the small gain or loss some of you have accrued. This one is ridiculous.

    BAC – We took a risk here on going overnight, and it did not pay off. We got in at 15.56 and sold at 14.63. A solid loss of 6.25%.

    MAR – We took a little more than a 1% loss when we got out at 31.58 from our entry at 31.95.

     

    Not a good day for The Oxen Report…I think it was the worst. Things will get better from here. I am working on a Midterm Trade/Play of the Week to enter today on this down day that I think can make a move next week.

     

    Good Investing,

    David Ristau

  16. millstone99

    Just sold at 7.21, not at 7.23. I am not a happy camper…

  17. millstone99

    Now 7.26. Dammit!

  18. millstone99

    7.30. Unreal. I got flushed out like a sucker…

  19. chip

    No David I am short Starwood Hotels from 54.
    I got totally screwed on BAC in 2008, July earnings….saw you considered DD and be glad you didn’t as that is what  I did that summer. chip

  20. David Ristau

    Millstone -

    You lose some and you win some…got to have short memory to trade.

  21. millstone99

    I know, but my losses are far outnumbering my wins right now.

  22. millstone99

    I know you think I’m a nervous trader (Which I am) but it’s from getting screwed so many times like this by not selling when I’m up for a base hit and holding out for a home run. It rarely ever happens. Instead, I watch a small, easy profit turn into a significant loss. It’s holding overnight that’s the killer. People take things for a ride and then leave you with a few crumbs in the morning.

  23. chip

    millstone99 if you were a hedge fund manager right now what you would do is close out all positions, get to cash and regroup. Read "The Invisible Hands" if you are not clear on this. Not only is this market practically impossible to trade, when you are down on your luck is when you are most vulnerable to compounding problems. I speak from experience and this leads you to swing for the fences and try to make it all back quickly. Go to cash, and spend the rest of the month studying all your recent trades and try to learn from them.
    What I do when i am on a losing streak is go to cash, study my trades and spend more time playing chess on Yahoo Games which keeps my brain sharp and my competitive juices flowing.

  24. David Ristau

    Millstone -

    Then you got stop chasing…I rarely do. I did with MAR and AMD and look what happened. I barely ever chase, and I have over a 75% correct rate lifetime. Learn from what you do…and don’t do it.

  25. David Ristau

    Chip -

    Great post. 

  26. millstone99

    I haven’t been chasing. My main mistake with AMD was missing out on selling half when it was up.

  27. millstone99

    The main mistake I’ve made is holding my trades too long. On the ones I do sell for a profit. I get heck for getting out early. But in those cases, I MAKE MONEY. Rather than hold and lose.

  28. David Ristau

    Millstone -

    If the point is to make money…then do what you need to do. You think I listen to too many other people when it comes to my trading. Unless I can learn something, most of the criticism I get is a waste of my time. You have to define your style, define what works for you, define what profits you want to get…and do it. Who cares what everyone else thinks if you are making money…

    That is the key to investing.

  29. millstone99

    well, the point is definitely not to lose money! like I said, you can never go wrong with small, consistent profits.

  30. David Ristau

    Millstone -

    That is exactly my philosophy.

  31. nicha

    Chip- I think I am going to take your advice and regroup. I have lost over 60% of a couple of my portfolios swing trading because of position sizing and not respecting stops. Seems to be a consistent problem for me though.

  32. millstone99

    I stupidly went and checked AMD’s current price. 7.39. Unbelievable.

  33. jeanc

    Great discussion guys, I agree with it all but I suffer from my own problem which is usually to hold too long.

  34. David Ristau

    Nicha -

    Got to identify those consistent problems and change them…harness the greed…one of my favorite lines.

  35. jeanc

    Harness the Greed .
    Now a poster on my bulleting board in front of me all the time

  36. David Ristau

    Jeanc -

    Very nice!

  37. jomptien

    AMD 7.46 – I got out at 7.15 ugh.

  38. skdoyle1

    AMD.  In at 7.48, Out at 7.49. 
    0% on this one sounds like a win to me.
    -doyle

  39. chip

    Nicha I do not mean to usurp David here but I have learned the hard way myself. HF usually have limits on how much of a hit the portfolio can take in aggregate before trading is frozen for a set period of time. As individual traders we sometimes do not adhere to rigid rules because we only answer to ourselves. However, the self-loathing that comes about is worse. For myself if I cannot outperform 10 yr Treasury yields after expenses and gains tax then I need to explain to my wife and family why it is I feel justified playing with our family’s money. That’s just me.  I do not know the answer on position size as I think having positions only 2-4% of your total tradeable asset is ridiculous b/c of tracking problems not to mention you have moves of 25-50 bps that do not change the overall value of your port. I think 10-12% is better for me.  Remember that HF have position sizing of 2-5% mostly because they need to get in and out of positions quickly without moving the market much as they do so. I have seen the 5 DMA used as stop loss over on OpTrader--very tight but they are trading options where the volatility is simply breathtaking.
    I take no issue with David’s calls as by being a subsriber to PSW I pay him to make trades, not advise us to sit on the sidelines.

  40. nicha

    I agree with you somewhat chip. I have had some success with Optrader and with David as well although I am beginning to feel I am more suited to David’s style. Because my account is small I cannot do one day trades but overall David has been a big help. As for losing the money it was entirely my fault for not following Opt and picking up AAPL after the launch of Iphone and burning myself with a huge position in not one but two accounts. Thankfully the third one is safe.

  41. David Ristau

    Oxen Alert – Longterm Investment

    I have a new Longterm Investment in Paychex Inc. (PAYX). This company has a 50% potential for growth I believe. Check out my thesis, valuation, and risk for this long term investment.

    I am involved today at 26.00.

    Good Investing!

  42. nicha

    David- do you recommend selling front month calls to collect some rent when we buy LT stocks?

  43. sydney99

    New user
    Would you sell puts on payx lets say jan 2011
    Whats your thoughts on su or cnq
    Thanks
    syd

  44. David Ristau

    Nicha -

    I just combine my long term with other short term positions outside of the LT.

  45. David Ristau

    Sydney -

    I’m strictly a stock guy. I’m looking at 12 month minimum on this one probably, so options are not really the way to go.

    SU and CNQ – Are you looking long, short, medium? Financial rating? Stock rating?

  46. Stark

    millstone -
     
    don’t feel too bad I’m getting my a$$ handed to me also, probably more so than you. I have MAR shares and missed my chance today to get out with a small loss. At least I didn’t get BAC, that is really unbelievable they dropped 9%. It’s making these overnight plays impossible when the reaction to beating estimates is so negative. This volatility makes me sick.

  47. deano

    David
    Any opinion on NVDA at this level?

  48. David Ristau

    Deano -

    NVDA does not excite me. Earnings are supposed to be less than last two quarters. It is in a brutal decline, and it isn’t a fast decline that would make me think it’ll bounce back. I wouldn’t buy now, but get it right before earnings. 

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